These are great, important suggestions. But like with the library science
resources, it seems like Wikidata is again trying to re-invent an existing
wheel. Why are the existing tools in Wikipedia not being migrated and/or
pathway'd into Wikidata? The stripping of Wikipedia citations to push it to
Wikidata often / always (?) denudes the information of what is a very
rigorous requirement on Wiki.
I love the Citoid option, or whatever has been deployed for the Wiki Markup
editor when you put an ISBN number, OCLC number, or NYTimes URL into the
lookups there. There is no interchangeability with Wikidata though?
#WikiCite :-)
Agree on the {{citation needed}} button, Finn! ha!
- Erika
*Erika Herzog*
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>*
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Magnus Manske <[email protected]>
wrote:
> While the proposal of all statements requiring citation is obviously
> overshooting, I believe we all agree that more/better citations improve
> Wikidata.
> One component here would be a social one, namely that it first becomes
> good practice, then the default, to cite statements.
> For that, improved technology and new approaches are required. Suggestions
> include:
> * Open a blank reference box when adding a statement in the default
> editor, thus subtly prompting a reference
> * Show a "smart field" for reference adding, e.g. just paste a URL, and it
> registers it's an URL, suggests a title from the page at the URL, adds
> access date, suggests other data that can be inferred from the URL or the
> linked page, shows likely other fields (e.g. "author" or such) for easy
> fill-in
> * Automatically add references for statements via external IDs. I have a
> bot that does that to some degree, but it could use productizing
> * Tools to "migrate" Wikipedia references to the actual sources. (Again, I
> have some, but...)
> * "Reference mode", to quickly add references to statements. (I have a
> drag'n'drop script, but that breaks on every Wikidata UI update)
> * A list of items/statements that are in "priority need" for referencing.
> For example, death dates of the recently deceased should be simple, while
> they are still in the news.
> * Dedicated drives to complete a "set" (e.g. all women chemists), that is,
> have all statements references in those items
> * Special watchlist for new statements without reference, especially on
> otherwise "completely referenced" items
>
> Magnus
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 2:56 PM Brill Lyle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> *blanket, not blanked...
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