Hi Markus and All,

Looking forward to when further parts of this Wikidata-Wikipedia bridging
puzzle come together - and re Wikipedia Info Boxes and Wikidata Items (
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Infoboxes &
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Infoboxes). I wonder in what ways
a templates' approach could FURTHER play a complementary role here (which
might be something for a new different thread than this "info box proposal"
Wikidata thread) and in terms of making easy using Wikidata ITEMS (SQL) in
new ways in conjunction with ongoing ease of end-user editing (e..g. in
wiki or Wikipedia).

While this templates' approach may find best form in MediaWiki (so visual
editor et al), I have in mind this central World University and School
SUBJECT TEMPLATE - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE (and
its related templates: Languages (all), Nation States (all, each a major
university), Museums, etc., at bottom ) - which inform almost all 720 pages
of WUaS currently (which is mostly in English currently, except for the CC
MIT OCW in 7 languages) but plans to be in all 358 Wikipedia languages (and
eventually in all 8k languages) - for thinking further about this. WUaS
donated itself to Wikidata last autumn.

Wikipedia info boxes may be the answer to this Templates' approach - by
building in differentially developing Wikipedia info boxes for their
relative ease of use with structured data/Items into Templates for use in
new ways. I'm thinking here about what's ahead with voice for Wikidata, and
how I might be able to say (in Android currently) to my phone "please add
this link to "regional languages in Germany" to the Germany Wikipedia
information box with its links to Wikidata items here -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany (e.g.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Germany) - like one sees in
India Wikipedia information box here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India
(e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India). Would using voice
with info boxes into Wikidata facilitate new kinds of ease of use in
Wikidata? Could we dedicate a specific kind of Wikipedia info box to voice
developments (... and later use brain wave headsets for adding information
in a kind of drag and drop a link ... and then even later develop this
voice approach - voice is so easy! - (and beyond that brainwave headsets)
with SQL ad SQID, for example.

I'm wondering further, thinking ahead, re info boxes and the WUaS SUBJECT
TEMPLATE +, whether it might be possible to turn each "subsection" in WUaS
into a kind of dedicated Wikipedia info box <> Wikidata items ... and
anticipate both voice, head sets and SQL. Are these some logical next steps
in this puzzle coming together, Markus and All?

As the pieces of the puzzle come further together, the beauty of a
"templates approach" offering specialization of info boxes (re accessing
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_access) - is their ease of
editing - like in Wikipedia - and their potential for exploring interfacing
with structured data in possibly new unfolding ways.

Thank you for these great Wikidata and Wikipedia projects - now in all 358
languages.

Cheers, Scott



On Aug 3, 2016 9:16 AM, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Brill Lyle, 03/08/2016 13:30:
>
>> Huge barrier for Wikipedia end-users.
>>
>
> What makes you think so? Did you interview or observe users editing? In my
> experience, Wikidata is much easier for newbies to grasp than wikitext or
> even VisualEditor: like VisualEditor's template editor, Wikidata resembles
> a standard form, which people are used to.
>
> We only need to make sure there are direct deep links from each piece of
> displayed (or missing) information to the statement on Wikidata where they
> are (or should be); and later add dialogs for direct editing from the
> client wikis, as was done long ago with the interlanguage links.
>
> Nemo
>
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