(I half expected that link to be paywalled - fortunately it wasn't.) Thanks!
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:10 AM Egon Willighagen <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Denny Vrandečić <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> One stupid question: due to the length of these identifiers, and since >> they are not simple intransparent identifiers but rather encode semantics - >> if I understand it correctly - could a single such identifier be encoding >> content or ideas which are potentially covered by copyright or patent law? >> Is there some background available on that? >> > > > Not the InChI. The standard itself is meant to be reused as much as > possible and the software is open source. > > Some information here: > http://jcheminf.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/1758-2946-5-7 > > Egon > > > >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:27 AM Egon Willighagen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Sebastian, great you found time for it! I didn't :/ (Stats are worth a >>> tweet, IMHO :) >>> >>> Egon >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Sebastian Burgstaller < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Denny, >>>> Sorry, I missed this email. just did the calculation for InChI string >>>> lengths on the 92 Mio PubChem compounds: >>>> 99% 99.9% 100% >>>> 311 676 4502 >>>> >>>> That said, there is not upper limit for the length, but 4502 is the >>>> longest string in the PubChem database. The other IDs, canonical and >>>> isomeric SMILES have the same distribution shape, but are overall >>>> slightly shorter. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Sebastian >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Denny Vrandečić <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Can you figure out what a good limit would be for these two use >>>> cases? I.e. >>>> > what would support 99%, 99.9%, and 100%? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Sep 18, 2016, 12:27 Egon Willighagen < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Hi all, >>>> >> >>>> >> sorry for joining the party late... >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Sebastian Burgstaller >>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >> > I think this topic might have been discussed many months ago. For >>>> >> > certain data types in the chemical compound space (P233, canonical >>>> >> > smiles, P2017 isomeric smiles and P234 Inchi key) a higher >>>> character >>>> >> > limit than 400 would be really helpful (1500 to 2000 chars (I sense >>>> >> > that this might cause problems with SPARQL)). Are there any plans >>>> on >>>> >> > implementing this? In general, for quality assurance, many string >>>> >> > property types would profit from a fixed max string length. >>>> >> >>>> >> 400 characters is not a lot for chemicals... InChIs can be a lot >>>> >> larger indeed. 2k would allow us to capture a lot more chemicals. >>>> BTW, >>>> >> this also applies to the canonical SMILES, which also doesn't have an >>>> >> upper bound. Tannic acid (Q427956) is an example (which looking at >>>> the >>>> >> InChIKey came up when running the bot :) From working with ChEMBL as >>>> >> RDF I know it has InChIs of length > 1024, which was the max length >>>> in >>>> >> Virtuoso... I think it's important for the biology and chemistry to >>>> >> increase the limit. >>>> >> >>>> >> Egon >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> E.L. Willighagen >>>> >> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT >>>> >> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/) >>>> >> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ >>>> >> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw >>>> >> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ >>>> >> PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers >>>> >> ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286 >>>> >> ImpactStory: https://impactstory.org/EgonWillighagen >>>> >> >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Wikidata mailing list >>>> >> [email protected] >>>> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wikidata mailing list >>>> > [email protected] >>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikidata mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> E.L. Willighagen >>> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT >>> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/) >>> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ >>> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw >>> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ >>> PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers >>> ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286 >>> ImpactStory: https://impactstory.org/u/egonwillighagen >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikidata mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >> >> > > > -- > E.L. Willighagen > Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT > Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/) > Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/ > LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw > Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/ > PubList: http://www.citeulike.org/user/egonw/tag/papers > ORCID: 0000-0001-7542-0286 > ImpactStory: https://impactstory.org/u/egonwillighagen > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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