THANK YOU! I've been expecting this for so long. @Eran: Q17117425 could made nice lexemes :P @Micru: even without senses, there is a lot of possible application (I'd love to have a spell-checker for Wikisource, no sense needed here).
Cheers, ~nicolas 2018-05-24 10:01 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela <[email protected]>: > Congratulations on releasing this! > > I think the usefulness will improve after releasing Senses, but it is good > that we have something to play with and start suggesting improvements. > > Regards, > Micru > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Eran Rosenthal <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is finally in >> production. >> There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user interface, >> but Q17117425 :) >> >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hoi, >>> Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea absolutely. The labels >>> don't; they describe the idea and with the possible exception of special >>> cases like templates lists and categories these labels can be associated >>> with lexical information. It is vitally important to have lexical >>> information about them because they will spark the development of better >>> use of the information inherently available in the Q-items. >>> Thanks, >>> GerardM >>> >>> On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello all, >>>> >>>> After several years discussing about it, and one year of development >>>> and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released >>>> the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data>. >>>> >>>> Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base >>>> was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, >>>> not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of >>>> data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many >>>> languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called >>>> Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all >>>> words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content >>>> of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community >>>> creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and >>>> outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. >>>> The first release >>>> >>>> A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in order >>>> to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can learn >>>> more by looking at the documentation >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation>, >>>> briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical >>>> structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data as >>>> they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that >>>> we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes> to >>>> create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage >>>> of the project to shape it, please participate! >>>> >>>> Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first >>>> experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some features >>>> are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are >>>> included in the first release: >>>> >>>> - Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers, >>>> references >>>> - Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to >>>> Item, etc.) >>>> - Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value >>>> >>>> And the following features will not be included in the first version, >>>> but are planned for the future: >>>> >>>> - Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search >>>> - RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with >>>> query.wikidata.org) >>>> - Support for Senses >>>> - Merging of Lexemes >>>> - Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as Wiktionary >>>> >>>> How to try it? >>>> >>>> The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here are >>>> some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory: >>>> >>>> - If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a look >>>> at the documentation >>>> >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation> >>>> - Look at what is already existing >>>> >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146>. >>>> Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right >>>> corner >>>> of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this. >>>> - Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme> >>>> - If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here >>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes> >>>> - Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata >>>> talk:Lexicographical data >>>> - Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk >>>> page or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a >>>> task, add the tag Lexicographical data, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) >>>> as a subscriber) >>>> >>>> About mass imports and tools >>>> >>>> We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for the >>>> moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, like >>>> mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to observe how >>>> our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering automatic >>>> ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the beginning. >>>> Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under >>>> CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure that the data >>>> they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, you can have a >>>> look at the advice of WMF Legal team >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data>. >>>> Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before >>>> considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been >>>> putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should >>>> be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions >>>> to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together. >>>> >>>> We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on >>>> the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably >>>> going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable >>>> enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be >>>> possible. >>>> Next steps >>>> >>>> After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very >>>> regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with the >>>> new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know >>>> what are the most important features for you to be worked on next. >>>> >>>> - What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What >>>> went wrong or was unexpected? >>>> - What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter? >>>> - What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most >>>> important? Which one should we work on next? >>>> >>>> If you’re interested in following the discussions and further >>>> announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow >>>> Wikidata:Lexicographical >>>> data <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data> and >>>> its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and structure >>>> data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of >>>> other things. >>>> >>>> Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we >>>> expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest >>>> properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our >>>> community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help >>>> and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the >>>> Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, both >>>> with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we >>>> want it to at the beginning :) >>>> >>>> Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the >>>> release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on >>>> Wikidata! >>>> >>>> If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata >>>> talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. >>>> -- >>>> Léa Lacroix >>>> Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata >>>> >>>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. >>>> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 >>>> 10963 Berlin >>>> www.wikimedia.de >>>> >>>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. >>>> >>>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >>>> unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. 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