I was too busy yesterday testing, and I forgot to share my love for your efforts. :) Today I have another lesson in which I'll talk about Wikidata, and I'll be sure to say that finally LD started! Thank you!
L. Il gio 24 mag 2018, 10:19 Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected]> ha scritto: > THANK YOU! > I've been expecting this for so long. > > @Eran: Q17117425 could made nice lexemes :P > @Micru: even without senses, there is a lot of possible application (I'd > love to have a spell-checker for Wikisource, no sense needed here). > > Cheers, > ~nicolas > > 2018-05-24 10:01 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela <[email protected]>: > >> Congratulations on releasing this! >> >> I think the usefulness will improve after releasing Senses, but it is >> good that we have something to play with and start suggesting improvements. >> >> Regards, >> Micru >> >> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Eran Rosenthal <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is finally in >>> production. >>> There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user interface, >>> but Q17117425 :) >>> >>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hoi, >>>> Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea absolutely. The labels >>>> don't; they describe the idea and with the possible exception of special >>>> cases like templates lists and categories these labels can be associated >>>> with lexical information. It is vitally important to have lexical >>>> information about them because they will spark the development of better >>>> use of the information inherently available in the Q-items. >>>> Thanks, >>>> GerardM >>>> >>>> On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> After several years discussing about it, and one year of development >>>>> and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released >>>>> the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata >>>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data>. >>>>> >>>>> Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base >>>>> was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, >>>>> not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of >>>>> data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many >>>>> languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, >>>>> called >>>>> Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all >>>>> words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content >>>>> of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community >>>>> creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and >>>>> outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. >>>>> The first release >>>>> >>>>> A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in >>>>> order to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can >>>>> learn more by looking at the documentation >>>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation>, >>>>> briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical >>>>> structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data >>>>> as >>>>> they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that >>>>> we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties >>>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes> to >>>>> create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage >>>>> of the project to shape it, please participate! >>>>> >>>>> Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first >>>>> experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some >>>>> features >>>>> are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are >>>>> included in the first release: >>>>> >>>>> - Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers, >>>>> references >>>>> - Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to >>>>> Item, etc.) >>>>> - Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value >>>>> >>>>> And the following features will not be included in the first version, >>>>> but are planned for the future: >>>>> >>>>> - Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search >>>>> - RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with >>>>> query.wikidata.org) >>>>> - Support for Senses >>>>> - Merging of Lexemes >>>>> - Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as >>>>> Wiktionary >>>>> >>>>> How to try it? >>>>> >>>>> The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here >>>>> are some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory: >>>>> >>>>> - If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a >>>>> look at the documentation >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation> >>>>> - Look at what is already existing >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146>. >>>>> Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right >>>>> corner >>>>> of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this. >>>>> - Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme >>>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme> >>>>> - If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here >>>>> <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes> >>>>> - Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata >>>>> talk:Lexicographical data >>>>> - Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk >>>>> page or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a >>>>> task, add the tag Lexicographical data, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) >>>>> as a subscriber) >>>>> >>>>> About mass imports and tools >>>>> >>>>> We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for >>>>> the moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, >>>>> like mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to >>>>> observe >>>>> how our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering >>>>> automatic ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the >>>>> beginning. Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is >>>>> released under CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure >>>>> that the data they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, >>>>> you can have a look at the advice of WMF Legal team >>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data>. >>>>> Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before >>>>> considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been >>>>> putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should >>>>> be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions >>>>> to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together. >>>>> >>>>> We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on >>>>> the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably >>>>> going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable >>>>> enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be >>>>> possible. >>>>> Next steps >>>>> >>>>> After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very >>>>> regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with >>>>> the >>>>> new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know >>>>> what are the most important features for you to be worked on next. >>>>> >>>>> - What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What >>>>> went wrong or was unexpected? >>>>> - What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter? >>>>> - What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most >>>>> important? Which one should we work on next? >>>>> >>>>> If you’re interested in following the discussions and further >>>>> announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow >>>>> Wikidata:Lexicographical >>>>> data <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data> >>>>> and its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and >>>>> structure data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and >>>>> a >>>>> lot of other things. >>>>> >>>>> Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we >>>>> expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest >>>>> properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our >>>>> community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help >>>>> and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the >>>>> Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, >>>>> both >>>>> with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we >>>>> want it to at the beginning :) >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the >>>>> release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on >>>>> Wikidata! >>>>> >>>>> If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata >>>>> talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. >>>>> -- >>>>> Léa Lacroix >>>>> Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. >>>>> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 >>>>> 10963 Berlin >>>>> www.wikimedia.de >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. >>>>> >>>>> Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg >>>>> unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. 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