Congratulations to all the team! This is just an awesome announcement. Good luck developing WikibaseLexeme. I just contributed with a lexeme, L870 [1], although I have to improve it yet.
I have one question: "baifo" is a word of the Spanish speaking in the Canary Islands (a dialect [2]). How could I specify this aspect? In this case I set Canarian Spanish (Q957764) [3] as language of the lexeme and in the language of the lemma I use just Spanish. But then, checking the lexeme I read "Spelling variant" where I use Spanish and "Language" where I use Canarian Spanish, so it is not correct, because the "Spelling variant" should be Canarian Spanish, but it is just a dialect and I only see "es-formal". Any advice to improve and have a good item? Regards, Iván [1]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L870 [2]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33384 [3]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q957764 On 24/05/18 09:27, Luca Martinelli wrote: > I was too busy yesterday testing, and I forgot to share my love for your > efforts. :) Today I have another lesson in which I'll talk about > Wikidata, and I'll be sure to say that finally LD started! Thank you! > > L. > > Il gio 24 mag 2018, 10:19 Nicolas VIGNERON <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto: > > THANK YOU! > I've been expecting this for so long. > > @Eran: Q17117425 could made nice lexemes :P > @Micru: even without senses, there is a lot of possible application > (I'd love to have a spell-checker for Wikisource, no sense needed here). > > Cheers, > ~nicolas > > 2018-05-24 10:01 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > Congratulations on releasing this! > > I think the usefulness will improve after releasing Senses, but > it is good that we have something to play with and start > suggesting improvements. > > Regards, > Micru > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Eran Rosenthal > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is > finally in production. > There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user > interface, but Q17117425 :) > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hoi, > Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea > absolutely. The labels don't; they describe the idea and > with the possible exception of special cases like > templates lists and categories these labels can be > associated with lexical information. It is vitally > important to have lexical information about them because > they will spark the development of better use of the > information inherently available in the Q-items. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hello all, > > After several years discussing about it, and one > year of development and discussion with the > communities, the development team has now released > the first version of lexicographical data support on > Wikidata > > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data>. > > Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the > multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on > concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, > not to the word describing it. Starting now, > Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases > and sentences, in many languages, described in many > languages. This information will be stored in new > types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. > It will allow editors to describe precisely all > words in all languages, and will be reusable, just > like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple > tools and queries, everything that the community > creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can > be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects, > and can provide support for Wiktionary. > > > The first release > > A new namespace and several new entity types have > been created in order to model words and phrases. If > you’re new to this project, you can learn more by > looking at the documentation > > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation>, > briefly describing the data model and the interface. > The technical structure is set, but the editors > remain free to model and organize data as they > prefer, with the usual open discussions and > community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some > discussions about new properties > > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes> > to create have already started: if you want to be > involved in the early stage of the project to shape > it, please participate! > > Please note that the version that is now deployed is > a first experiment, that will be continuously > improved in the future. Some features are missing, > some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features > that are included in the first release: > > * Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, > qualifiers, references > * Link between the different entity types (Item to > Lexeme, Form to Item, etc.) > * Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value > > And the following features will not be included in > the first version, but are planned for the future: > > * Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search > * RDF support (which also means: the ability to > query it with query.wikidata.org > <http://query.wikidata.org>) > * Support for Senses > * Merging of Lexemes > * Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, > such as Wiktionary > > > How to try it? > > The features described above are now deployed on > Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you > can do to explore this new territory: > > * If you’re not familiar with the structure of > Lexemes, have a look at the documentation > > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation> > * Look at what is already existing > > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146>. > Please note that Special:Search and the search > bar on the top right corner of pages is not > supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this. > * Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme> > * If a property that you need is missing, you can > suggest it here > > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes> > * Discuss about how to model words and ask > questions on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data > * Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: > either on the talk page or on Phabricator, if > you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add > the tag |Lexicographical data|, and add > Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber) > > > About mass imports and tools > > We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from > any source for the moment*. There are several > reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned > above, the release is a first version and we need to > observe how our system reacts to the manual edits > before starting considering automatic ones. The > system may not be ready for big massive imports at > the beginning. Second reason is legal. > Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under > CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to > make sure that the data they will add is compatible > with CC0. For more information, you can have a look > at the advice of WMF Legal team > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data>. > Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with > the communities before considering any import from > the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been > putting a lot of efforts during years to build > definitions, and we should be respectful of this > work, and discuss with them to find common solutions > to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of > it together. > > We also suggest you to wait a bit before building > tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data. > The interface and its API are probably going to > evolve during the next months, and the system may > not be stable enough to support such tools. We will > inform you as soon as it will be possible. > > > Next steps > > After this first release, some improvements will be > made on a very regular basis (new deployments every > week). Once you tried playing with the new data, > feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking > especially to know what are the most important > features for you to be worked on next. > > * What did you experiment while editing > lexicographical data? What went wrong or was > unexpected? > * What bugs or troubles during the process did you > encounter? > * What are the features that are, in your opinion, > the most important? Which one should we work on > next? > > If you’re interested in following the discussions > and further announcements about lexicographical > data, I encourage you to follow > Wikidata:Lexicographical data > > <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data> > and its talk page, where we will discuss about how > to organize and structure data, new features to be > added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of > other things. > > Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled > on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get > interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or > ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of > our community processes and our ways to organize > content. They will need help and support as well as > links to useful resources to understand how the > Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be > kind and patient, both with other editors and with > the software that may not work exactly as we want it > to at the beginning :) > > Thanks to the people who tested the model and the > interface before the release, who showed support and > curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata! > > If you have any question or idea, feel free to write > on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. > > -- > Léa Lacroix > Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 > 10963 Berlin > www.wikimedia.de <http://www.wikimedia.de> > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung > Freien Wissens e. V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts > Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als > gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > > -- > Etiamsi omnes, ego non > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata > -- Iván Hernández Cazorla Wikimedia España
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