I agree with Maarten and to add to that. It is a huge misconception that CC0 makes data unreliable. It is only a legal statement about copyright, nothing more, nothing less. Statements without proper references and qualifiers make data unreliable, but Wikidata has a decent mechanism to capture that needed provenance.
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Maarten Dammers <maar...@mdammers.nl> wrote: > Hi Mathieu, > > On 04-07-18 11:07, mathieu stumpf guntz wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Le 19/05/2018 à 03:35, Denny Vrandečić a écrit : >> >>> >>> Regarding attribution, commonly it is assumed that you have to respect >>> it transitively. That is one of the reasons a license that requires BY >>> sucks so hard for data: unlike with text, the attribution requirements grow >>> very quickly. It is the same as with modified images and collages: it is >>> not sufficient to attribute the last author, but all contributors have to >>> be attributed. >>> >> If we want our data to be trustable, then we need traceability. That is >> reporting this chain of sources as extensively as possible, whatever the >> license require or not as attribution. CC-0 allow to break this >> traceability, which make an aweful license to whoever is concerned with >> obtaining reliable data. >> > A license is not the way to achieve this. We have references for that. > >> >>> This is why I think that whoever wants to be part of a large federation >>> of data on the web, should publish under CC0. >>> >> As long as one aim at making a federation of untrustable data banks, >> that's perfect. ;) >> > So I see you started forum shopping (trying to get the Wikimedia-l people > in) and making contentious trying to be funny remarks. That's usually a > good indication a thread is going nowhere. > > No, Wikidata is not going to change the CC0. You seem to be the only > person wanting that and trying to discredit Wikidata will not help you in > your crusade. I suggest the people who are still interested in this to go > to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728 and make useful comments > over there. > > Maarten > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata mailing list > Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata >
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