Hi Brent, You say "I still just don't get this whole argument..."
The argument that I and others have made is that it's in the best interest of WikiEducator & all wikis really to reduce and eliminate where possible any barriers to participation. Any barrier will act to reduce participation. Don't we want as many people as possible involved in wiki media development? I don't think that taking the attitude of "if you can't be bothered spending [the time needed], then I guess you just miss half of the revolution -- sorry" is particularly constructive. Wikis are not the revolution. They're only one of the open-content platforms that are out there. If they don't meet the evolving needs of consumers, then they will fall by the wayside. D >>> Brent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/21/08 8:10 PM >>> its not a bad idea ... Alexander Hayes and I tried this once though and it was harder than it seemed to locate icons for half of the wiki things that were there, but it would be worth another shot. Perhaps a good graphic designer and a bit of feedback from the community could make a page on the wiki for experimentation. It's pretty easy to swap them in and out if you have access so we could set up a test wiki somewhere and give it a go. I still just don't get this whole argument and it often makes me just think, well ... if you can't be bothered spending all of about 3 hours to get a grip on the basic basic basic (did I emphasize how basic this is?) syntax, then I guess you just miss half of the revolution -- sorry. You can just be a consumer. You want to be on the bus then take the pill mate, otherwise ... get out of the way. brent. On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Leigh Blackall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The WYSIWYG that is already in all MediaWikis just needs a little > tweaking. The icons it uses are way weird! Is there any way we can get in > there and change the icons so that they are more in tune with the majority > of other WYSIWYG? And then, when we click the WYSIWYG icons, how about the > syntax that is placed be just a little more helpful.. such as when making a > link, we highlight the text and then click the weird link icon. It adds [] > around the word. What it needs is some red text that says: *add your link > here*. in red so we can't miss it. I reckon that would be a good > compromise, where drained newbies can avoid pure editing, but by using the > icons they gradually come to appreciate and learn straight syntax. > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Jim Tittsler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 1:33 PM, James Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > i've found that the OO Writer MW export works nicely for converting > > > existing documents into markup - but its not much good for live > > editing, nor > > > is OO it something that your average teacher is familiar with > > > > Yes, there is a difference between authoring and editing. Once the > > round-trip is possible, I think "editing" will be more practical. I > > also think that once you have the basic structure, editing a bit here > > and there in wiki format is not as off-putting. You've got lots of > > examples at hand. > > > > And it can be done without constant connectivity. > > > > (Gee, average teachers don't seem familiar with much in this domain. :-) > > > > > this is possibly where moodle will win out in situations where a MW > > install > > > or WV/WE could have been used > > > > I don't quite follow this. The typical Moodle's htmlArea seems more > > frustrating than learning a bit of wiki markup. I guess there are > > different frustration thresholds. > > > > And now that there are baby steps in exporting WE content in content > > package form, you can gain the benefit of collaborative editing but > > still allow deployment in legacy LMSes. > > > > > > > > > -- > -- > Leigh Blackall > +64(0)21736539 > skype - leigh_blackall > SL - Leroy Goalpost > http://learnonline.wordpress.com > > > > -- -------------------------------- http://digitalsynapse.co.nz http://greymatter.co.nz -------------------------------- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
