Leigh --

very good ideas -- I'm rushing off now, but will respond more fully
tomorrow. Lets figure out how to make this work

Cheers
Wayne

On Apr 30, 1:22 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, I think that is a good idea.. what do we call them? Wikifairies and
> Wikigardeners.
>
> Wayne, could you coordinate a volunteer base for a specified period, say 1
> month. For 1 month we would have a number of volunteers who would tend to a
> list of pages nominated for fancying up. How we generate that list could be
> in a number of ways, but maybe we should consider the benefits this
> volunteer group bring in this short space of time...
>
> Imagine Randy's contact in Hawaii. She puts up a couple of pages and within
> an hour of doing so someone comes in and edits something for the better.
> Randy's contact would no doubt be impressed. I know, I have seen the
> impression on a teacher when Brent and Wayne have come in with the odd edit
> and improvement. But we need to coordinate the interventions on Randy's
> contact's page so that it is sustained and helpful all the way through. I
> would be certain after that, that the person would be so impressed by the
> help that they would be running down the corridors banging on faculty doors
> to come and see :)
>
> So how do we sustain it? Paying people to do this obviously works.. but I
> wonder how many people would be willing to volunteer for a month. I reckon
> we would need about 5 people each month to make a suitable impression across
> the whole community.
>
> But what's in it for the volunteers? Perhaps they get status? Perhaps we
> could portfolio their volunteer efforts and then list them as guns for hire?
> I think that would be a good reward. People who have done their time as
> volunteers get listed somewhere where people with money can browse their
> work and contact them with offers of paid work helping to get their wiki
> pages right... we have about 3 designers here who are starting to get
> familiar with MediaWiki, and who might be willing to do some volunteer time
> in return for promotion of their commercial services in WIkieducator
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:07 AM, mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
>
> > I know exactly what you mean -- tweaking the layout so that it looks
> > presentable. With me, I spend too much time trying to get that perfect
> > look and feel -- then I pop  over to a colleague who one of the newer
> > wide screen displays -- and then things don't quite look the same :-).
>
> > It comes with the territory of social networking. The upside is that
> > faculty and lecturers who struggle a little with the syntax and layout
> > acquire a new life skill to participate more fully in our connected
> > world. That said, its a tall ask for educators who are already
> > overloaded.
>
> > In addition to some of the solutions and ideas we've already
> > discussed, I wondering whether it would be possible to trial a
> > division of labour strategy for the layout and tidying up of content.
> > This is something DE institutions have done very successfully. The
> > idea is to assign the visual layout and fixing of syntax to someone
> > who has better skills in this area, saving time for lecturers to focus
> > on their content expertise.
>
> > Would it be possible to trial using student help for the layout etc on
> > a small pilot to assess whether this is a cost effective strategy?
>
> > Any solutions Otago come up with will be solutions of the rest of the
> > world starting out on this bold path.
>
> > Just a thought ...
> > Wayne
>
> > On Apr 30, 1:06 am, "David McQuillan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Isn't it your job to "live in a dream world"?
> > > And also most of ours I guess.
> > > The trick is to make the dreams concrete.  :-)
>
> > > I like the idea of offline editing mainly because of lag-times.  The NZ
> > network is not the fastest.
>
> > > One of the other reasons I'm keen on a WYSIWYG interface is that I find
> > that when I'm editing a page in WikiEd, I commonly think that I've got the
> > editing all sorted out in wiki-media-text, but then when I have a look at
> > how it displays it's clear that I need to make some changes.  It usually
> > takes me a few saves before it's formatted in the way that I'd like it to
> > be.  Maybe that's just me?
>
> > > D
>
> > > >>> mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/30/08 4:59 PM >>>
>
> > > Hi David --
>
> > > I agree the current OO implementation is not perfect, and whatever
> > > improvements we can figure out will still need some training support
> > > at the local level.
>
> > > What I have in mind is a more of a future solution -- that is adapting
> > > and refining OO so that we don't need much tweaking after the copy &
> > > paste. WE have a unique advantage -- first hand experience in working
> > > with lecturers who may not be well versed in these emerging
> > > technologies. In many respects we are global pioneers -- so I'm
> > > relying on your experiences -- good and bad to help us build the
> > > future.
>
> > > I would love to see an offline editing solution for WE -- perhaps we
> > > can kill two birds with one stone ...
>
> > > I suppose I'm living in a dream world --- but always willing to try
> > > and make the future happen :-)
>
> > > So I'd like to test and pilot alternatives the OO route and the FCK
> > > editor route. Lets take an informed decision on what we learn from our
> > > action research approach.
>
> > > Cheers
> > > Wayne
>
> --
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> Leigh Blackall
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> skype - leigh_blackall
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