I'm thinking about this too - can't say I like Wikifairies....WikiGardeners or WikiMavens....
To me, there are four aspects of WikiEducator that are exciting: 1. editing, customising, localizing content *2. dynamic collaborative energy* 3. our community 4. testbed for cool technologies For this conversation, I am particularly interested in giving people an 'experience' of the dynamic collaborative energy. When I got onboard with WikiEd, and I experienced it, I was hooked...so Leigh, your thought is totally in alignment with where I was at, and am at currently. We need to give people this type of 'experience'. (Indeed, I've been talking to Wayne about taking another look at the L4C tutorial - from 10 days to a 1, to .5 day workshop, so it gives people real-time experience with dynamic collaboration). I think there are many ways to recognize volunteers - these are good ideas...let's continue developing this. - Randy - On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:09 PM, mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Leigh -- > > very good ideas -- I'm rushing off now, but will respond more fully > tomorrow. Lets figure out how to make this work > > Cheers > Wayne > > On Apr 30, 1:22 pm, "Leigh Blackall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, I think that is a good idea.. what do we call them? Wikifairies and > > Wikigardeners. > > > > Wayne, could you coordinate a volunteer base for a specified period, say > 1 > > month. For 1 month we would have a number of volunteers who would tend > to a > > list of pages nominated for fancying up. How we generate that list could > be > > in a number of ways, but maybe we should consider the benefits this > > volunteer group bring in this short space of time... > > > > Imagine Randy's contact in Hawaii. She puts up a couple of pages and > within > > an hour of doing so someone comes in and edits something for the better. > > Randy's contact would no doubt be impressed. I know, I have seen the > > impression on a teacher when Brent and Wayne have come in with the odd > edit > > and improvement. But we need to coordinate the interventions on Randy's > > contact's page so that it is sustained and helpful all the way through. > I > > would be certain after that, that the person would be so impressed by > the > > help that they would be running down the corridors banging on faculty > doors > > to come and see :) > > > > So how do we sustain it? Paying people to do this obviously works.. but > I > > wonder how many people would be willing to volunteer for a month. I > reckon > > we would need about 5 people each month to make a suitable impression > across > > the whole community. > > > > But what's in it for the volunteers? Perhaps they get status? Perhaps we > > could portfolio their volunteer efforts and then list them as guns for > hire? > > I think that would be a good reward. People who have done their time as > > volunteers get listed somewhere where people with money can browse their > > work and contact them with offers of paid work helping to get their wiki > > pages right... we have about 3 designers here who are starting to get > > familiar with MediaWiki, and who might be willing to do some volunteer > time > > in return for promotion of their commercial services in WIkieducator > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:07 AM, mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > I know exactly what you mean -- tweaking the layout so that it looks > > > presentable. With me, I spend too much time trying to get that perfect > > > look and feel -- then I pop over to a colleague who one of the newer > > > wide screen displays -- and then things don't quite look the same :-). > > > > > It comes with the territory of social networking. The upside is that > > > faculty and lecturers who struggle a little with the syntax and layout > > > acquire a new life skill to participate more fully in our connected > > > world. That said, its a tall ask for educators who are already > > > overloaded. > > > > > In addition to some of the solutions and ideas we've already > > > discussed, I wondering whether it would be possible to trial a > > > division of labour strategy for the layout and tidying up of content. > > > This is something DE institutions have done very successfully. The > > > idea is to assign the visual layout and fixing of syntax to someone > > > who has better skills in this area, saving time for lecturers to focus > > > on their content expertise. > > > > > Would it be possible to trial using student help for the layout etc on > > > a small pilot to assess whether this is a cost effective strategy? > > > > > Any solutions Otago come up with will be solutions of the rest of the > > > world starting out on this bold path. > > > > > Just a thought ... > > > Wayne > > > > > On Apr 30, 1:06 am, "David McQuillan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Isn't it your job to "live in a dream world"? > > > > And also most of ours I guess. > > > > The trick is to make the dreams concrete. :-) > > > > > > I like the idea of offline editing mainly because of lag-times. The > NZ > > > network is not the fastest. > > > > > > One of the other reasons I'm keen on a WYSIWYG interface is that I > find > > > that when I'm editing a page in WikiEd, I commonly think that I've got > the > > > editing all sorted out in wiki-media-text, but then when I have a look > at > > > how it displays it's clear that I need to make some changes. It > usually > > > takes me a few saves before it's formatted in the way that I'd like it > to > > > be. Maybe that's just me? > > > > > > D > > > > > > >>> mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 04/30/08 4:59 PM >>> > > > > > > Hi David -- > > > > > > I agree the current OO implementation is not perfect, and whatever > > > > improvements we can figure out will still need some training support > > > > at the local level. > > > > > > What I have in mind is a more of a future solution -- that is > adapting > > > > and refining OO so that we don't need much tweaking after the copy & > > > > paste. WE have a unique advantage -- first hand experience in > working > > > > with lecturers who may not be well versed in these emerging > > > > technologies. In many respects we are global pioneers -- so I'm > > > > relying on your experiences -- good and bad to help us build the > > > > future. > > > > > > I would love to see an offline editing solution for WE -- perhaps we > > > > can kill two birds with one stone ... > > > > > > I suppose I'm living in a dream world --- but always willing to try > > > > and make the future happen :-) > > > > > > So I'd like to test and pilot alternatives the OO route and the FCK > > > > editor route. Lets take an informed decision on what we learn from > our > > > > action research approach. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Wayne > > > > -- > > -- > > Leigh Blackall > > +64(0)21736539 > > skype - leigh_blackall > > SL - Leroy Goalposthttp://learnonline.wordpress.com > > > -- ________________ Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change & Improving Performance - for People, Communities, and Organizations http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Wikirandy + 1 604.684.2275 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hirerandy.com Skype: wikirandy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
