One thought that I have, is to make sure that they know two things:
1. How to logically organize their documents (i.e., wikieducator.org/Nellie/StudentName/Newpage1, newpage2, or ikieducator.org/Nellie/Topic/tudentName/Newpage1, newpage2 - you get the point...it has to be easy for them to remember, and follow a convention...Even though the wiki is flat, it will be a bit counterproductive, in that they won't be able to find the pages they are creating.... 2. 1. How to make a topic template, so they can keep track of their files - i.e., the main topic templated can be updated with shortcuts to their many pages. 3. As you begin collecting this information, why not create a page in the wiki, and start adding these things...under a well-named topic page, of course! - Randy On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM, NELLIE DEUTSCH < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Sandhya, > I intend to start my grade 12 ESL/EFL class on wikieducator in the next > school year. I would appreciate any suggestions you or others may have on > best practices. > > Nellie > > > On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Sandhya Gunness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> HI all, >> Just to let you know..My students are writing a collaborative article on >> Wikieducator called Wikiflexions <http://wikieducator.org/Wikiflexion>where >> they are relating their experiences on the Wiki workshop. >> Its a great collaborative exercise..and I'm enjoying being the guide by >> the side here.. >> Its true that they are a very motivated group. >> Sandhya >> >> >> On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 1:40 AM, wikirandy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> Very good. Looking forward to seeing this cluster develop strong >>> 'legs'. >>> >>> Randy >>> >>> On May 23, 7:07 pm, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > Agreed. >>> > >>> > Next week I meet with one of our local K12 school principals. The idea >>> > I'm pitching is to have the students collaborate with another school >>> > (from another Commonwealth Country) to develop thier particular grades >>> > curriculum all within WE. It's sort of my way of initiating greater >>> > development of K12 content within WE by having the students do it... >>> > >>> > I'll start a new discussion thread on this as I get to my next step of >>> > developing a Statement of Work (SOW) for this... This will all be very >>> > Learner focused... >>> > >>> > Cheers, P >>> > >>> > On May 23, 10:12 am, "Randy Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > Looks like we have a developing cluster here - focused on Learners! >>> > >>> > > Peter, Leo, Nellie, Declan - blaze the trail! >>> > >>> > > - Randy >>> > >>> > > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Declan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >>> > > > Hi folks, >>> > >>> > > > I think the answer to Peter's question should be 'both'. I see >>> scope >>> > > > for entry-level students, and also room for more scholarly >>> > > > contributions. >>> > >>> > > > My little project brings a class of 30+ students to Wikieducator. >>> > > > They range from first year third-level students to third year >>> working >>> > > > in mixed-age teams with three or four members per team. All of >>> their >>> > > > writing assignments for the course are in Wikieducator. >>> > >>> > > > Reflection: I require an online reflection on their classroom >>> > > > experience. This combines practical advice like 'don't let the >>> > > > students have the crayons before needed' and also more thoughtful >>> > > > reflection. Wayne suggested that the students might also reflect >>> on >>> > > > the wiki experience and more than half of them did: >>> > > >http://www.wikieducator.org/Wiki_reflections >>> > >>> > > > Reasons to come back: For WE to convert students to active users, >>> the >>> > > > material that students contribute must be of long-term value to >>> them. >>> > > > While we academics consider that the materials in our disciplines >>> will >>> > > > be of long-term use to students, the reality is that not all >>> material >>> > > > will resonate with all students. On the one hand I don't require >>> my >>> > > > Community Ecology students to write content for WE because I >>> recognize >>> > > > that some of them will be medical professionals, others will be >>> > > > environmental consultants, and perhaps one or two from a class of >>> 20 >>> > > > will become educators or community ecologists. On the other hand >>> > > > students in my Biology in Elementary Schools course are preparing >>> to >>> > > > be primary school teachers. If they work hard to develop a lesson >>> > > > plan, try it out, reflect on it, and put it in WE, my perhaps naive >>> > > > hope is that they'll be back to WE to use that information. >>> > >>> > > > I think it is valuable to have students engage in a broader >>> community >>> > > > and to contribute. I think it benefits the community, but more >>> > > > importantly I think it benefits the students directly. Anything >>> that >>> > > > encourages students to more highly value their work than simply a >>> > > > means of earning a grade is helps move their aspirations to a >>> higher >>> > > > level. Simply by saying 'this is a useful contribution', and >>> 'others >>> > > > will gain by your efforts', we are enforcing the idea that a >>> student >>> > > > is not just a student, but also are a valid contributed to their >>> > > > field. >>> > >>> > > > Costs: Not all students are A students. Some contributions will >>> be >>> > > > less than stellar. However, WE is a collaborative medium. None of >>> > > > should be shy about tweaking a page once the WIP tag has been >>> > > > removed. My hope is that when teachers use a lesson plan and find >>> a >>> > > > new angle, they will share that information with the rest of us. >>> > >>> > > > Peter and other contributors, thanks for starting a most >>> interesting >>> > > > discussion. >>> > >>> > > > Cheers, >>> > >>> > > > Declan >>> > >>> > > -- >>> > > ________________ >>> > > Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change and Designing Sustainable >>> Ecosystems to >>> > > Improve Performance- for People, Teams, Communities, and >>> Organizationshttp://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher >>> > >>> > > + 1 604.684.2275 >>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> > > Skype: wikirandy- Hide quoted text - >>> > >>> > > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Nellie Deutsch > Doctoral Student of Education > http://www.nelliemuller.com > http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd > http://www.building-relationship.com/education > http://blendedlear.ning.com > > > -- ________________ Randy Fisher - Facilitating Change and Designing Sustainable Ecosystems to Improve Performance- for People, Teams, Communities, and Organizations http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher + 1 604.684.2275 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hirerandy.com Skype: wikirandy --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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