Hiya Just as an addendum, since you ask, > Still not sure I understand the meaning of NC , and why NC is not good > for free content ? This is a good example of why, in my view, the NC license is more 'free' for content.
Suppose OCW is licensed to allow commercial use. Some company comes along and spends a lot of money to translate the materials into Chinese. Then, in order to recover their investment, they sell the materials in China. The result? - this remains the only translation into Chinese, since people say there is 'no point' translating the materials a second time - hence, for Chinese speakers, the *only* access to these materials is through purchase I would add that if there is any danger of people producing free Chinese versions of the materials, such a company would have a significant incentive to block that effort. Such efforts are blocked in numerous ways: - the company will 'lock down' the content it distributed (in., eg., proprietary formats, such as is used by the Kindle) so people can't simply copy it - the company would raise doubts about the quality of the free translation - the company would obtain exclusive distributorship of the material in Chinese markets, such as universities - questions would be raised about the legality of the free translation - if officials can be bribed, the people doing the free translation can be harassed or imprisoned - technical requirements (such as standards compliance, or content registration, or digital rights enforcement) can be imposed on all content, which only the commercial company can afford I could go on at length. The end result is, if content is licensed under 'CC-BY-SA', the result is inevitably that the majority of people in the world must pay for access to that content. And that is not what I call 'free'. -- Stephen > > Thank you > > Leo > > 2008/5/30 Stephen Downes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: > > Hiya, > > > > MIT's OCW materials use the NC restriction and therefore do not > qualify as free content under the free cultural works definition. The > access may be open -- but they are certainly not free materials :-) > > This is written as though it is a simple fait accompli. But there > is a significant body of opinion (at least, to me) that says that > materials may be 'free' and licensed as 'n on-commercial' -- and > indeed, that when materials are used commercially (eg., sold) they > are by definition *not* free. > > -- Stephen > > > Wong Leo wrote: >> Dear Wayne , could you please explain to me more about these NC >> rules I am confused >> >> why MIT use it >> >> what is the difference ? >> >> Leo thank you >> >> 2008/4/9 mackiwg <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: >> >> >> A quick observation -- >> >> MIT's OCW materials use the NC restriction and therefore do not >> qualify as free content under the free cultural works >> definition. The >> access may be open -- but they are certainly not free >> materials :-) >> >> Visit the CC site to see which licenses are approved as free >> cultural >> works. >> >> Fortunately WE and the Wikimedia foundation projects have >> been smart >> enough to use free content licenses! >> >> >> Cheers >> Wayne >> >> On Mar 30, 5:51 am, James Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> > MIT, Elsevier Offer Free Content From More Than 2,000 >> >> Journalshttp://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/about/media/elsevier_announce/elsevier_. >> >> <http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/about/media/elsevier_announce/elsevier_.>.. >> > >> > CAMBRIDGE, Mass., Mar. 7, 2008 - In a move to encourage >> open education, >> > MIT OpenCourseWare (OCW) and Elsevier have agreed to make >> available >> > figures and text selections from any of Elsevier's more >> than 2,000 >> > journal titles for use on OCW. >> > >> > As a result of this landmark agreement, select Elsevier >> content can now >> > be included within the open access OCW course materials - >> to be freely >> > downloaded, used and shared under a Creative Commons >> license. The >> > Elsevier content includes up to three figures (including >> tables and >> > illustrations) per individual article (or ten per journal >> volume) and up >> > to 100 words from a single text extract (or 300 words from >> a series of >> > extracts). >> >> >> >> >> -- >> blog:http://leolaoshi.yo2.cn >> HELP项目https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject >> > > > > > > > -- > blog:http://leolaoshi.yo2.cn > HELP项目https://groups.google.com/group/helpelephantsliveproject > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. To visit wikieducator, go to: http://www.wikieducator.org To post to this group, send email to wikieducator@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
