Dear Anil,
I'm involved with both UNV and PEOI and though both are very good there could be some issues with quality. E.g. in the case of UNV online translation review can be problematic/inexistent and in the case of PEOI, course author copyright might deter part of the peer-review benefits. Just food for thought for they're both excellent and actually think there could be potential WE-PEOI synergies for the textbook project (?). Cheers, Alex De: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de aprasad Enviado el: lunes, 08 de diciembre de 2008 4:28 Para: [email protected] Asunto: [WikiEducator] Re: Teachers Should Be Trained for Free (South Africa news article) Dear Dr. Wayne, Randy and other friends, Connecting to an earlier thread about the urgent requirement of teacher education in ZA, we have to offer support officially. Before that we require some urgent and very basic preparations. For example, WE has now a very good repository of learning content.but as pointed out by many earlier, collaboration happens seldom. In our L4C Workshops we have to give greater emphasis on the best wiki practice on 'where to start a new page?' Now it is time to take this vital structural issue seriously. We have to take special care to avoid the situation wherein valuable content lay scattered, and we move towards creating another wikipedia, rather than learning content supportive to QFs and Curricula. A monthly e-News letter to introduce major events, new projects and higlighting the progress in existing projects may be started to facilitate collaboration. Another thing we should do is to keep panels of WEs with specific experience and aptitude that can help us in the event of WE taking up projects officially. There should be a system to enlist names and other details voluntarily by members and a verification process to ensure the reliability. Online Volunteering project of UN <http://www.onlinevolunteering.org/en/index.html> http://www.onlinevolunteering.org/en/index.html and Professional Educational Organization International <http://www.peoi.org/> http://www.peoi.org/ are doing the same successfully for years. These aspects may be examined for incorporating in Phase 3 of WE that is being developed. -- Warm regards Anil <http://wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad> http://wikieducator.org/User:Anil_Prasad <http://wikieducator.org/India> http://wikieducator.org/India <http://wikieducator.org/Qualification_Framework> http://wikieducator.org/Qualification_Framework <http://wikieducator.org/Qualification_Framework/Professional_Education/Mana gement/MHRM> http://wikieducator.org/Qualification_Framework/Professional_Education/Manag ement/MHRM Skype: apletters On 12/8/08, Wayne < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Randy, Good thinking Randy --- there are many strategic elements in your post, which I think we need to incorporate into our evolving strategy for the future: <http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:WikiEducator_3.0> http://www.wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:WikiEducator_3.0 Thinking about Professional Development, clearly this is an important node for development. Thinking about the value proposition, there are two important reasons why an OER approach to professional development makes so much sense: 1) Almost every tertiary education institution has a professional development unit -- yet in my experience most are not adequately resourced in terms of staff or budget to do what needs to be done on campus. 2) An OER approach to professional development should theoretically be less threatening to institutions testing the OER waters because PD courses for academic staff are not necessarily courses on which institutions compete with each other. Back in the early conceptualisation phases of WikiEducator (i.e. before we moved to a hosted server solution) -- on 19 March 2006 I set up a PD development node on WE envisioning rapid growth ( <http://www.wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Professional_Development_(eLear ning_and_Instructional_Design)&oldid=1807> http://www.wikieducator.org/index.php?title=Professional_Development_(eLearn ing_and_Instructional_Design)&oldid=1807 ) -- However, I suspect that the idea was premature and poorly implemented :-), especially given that at the time we only had 10 registered accounts! (Wow -- can you believe that we're nearing the threshold of 7000 users!) So I thinking the timing is right to progress this further. With reference to your suggested refinements on the L4C initiative -- again the timing is just right from a strategic point of view. The current iterration of L4C will run to 30 June 2009 -- as determined by our external funding support from Hewlett. We need to start thinking about where we take L4C in the future --- and I really like your ideas for refocusing and reconfiguring the initiative. I'd be keen to hear what folk think? How should WE provide support for capacity development in the future? In what ways can we improve on our current approaches? Cheers Wayne On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 09:10 -0800, Randy Fisher wrote: Hi Everyone, Great dialogue.....I've been sleeping on this thread here, reflecting on conversations that I've had with Nellie, Maria and several L4C students, and what's becoming clear, is that Professional Development is an essential 'branding opportunity' for WikiEducator. On WE, we have so many projects and activities, it's easy to get lost in the fog.... (so a bit of a ramble coming up here - I'm not as eloquent as Leigh or Wayne... :-) I'm thinking back to my economic development days, and how can we 'package' what we have in a way that's appealing to educators - who may or may not know about open education. I'm also thinking about institutions' perennial quest to teach their teachers new stuff - which is great, but it's for the masses, not customised to the indivdual interests of teachers.... So, I'm thinking.... why not a process of "you scratch my back, I'll scratch someone else's itch". (Note, I didn't say "you scratch my back, I'll scratch 'yours'). The great thing about the WE community is that we have so many teacher-educators with so many interests (a network!)... The question is..., how can we leverage our WE Network in service of Teacher Educator's Professional Development? I'm thinking that it might make sense to go with a Centre of Excellence approach for Professional Development - to help us with branding and outreach to teacher educators in line with their own ProD interests, not just our wiki skills approach - (see what I've put up <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?1pd7aqbPab9JBUQsLCzAQsCzBYS02ciaOZ1KSPH7w 0e1qdnvFiloquaxTCvfGIHY9CXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZQfpw Uobj3NNNxnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8dSSto CBQQg0LQzh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEwxVyx EwScVmfYQkCV-7PNo_pgdECQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.wikieducator.org/Professional_Development I'm also thinking that we have to change the L4C messaging around the requirements for the Learning Contract (i.e., in the 10-day or the 5-day courses) - put emphasis on what Learners have to Offer and Share with their Peers, in terms of something that they can Teach another Educator. (The emphasis on OER is great, but the reality is, that if you develop it on WikiEducator, it is an OER! :-) I think a subtle yet important shift in emphasis could help us convey our value proposition, particularly those teacher-educators who want to learn new skills. Of course we want them to develop OERs in our community, but first things first - let's have them share something easy, something they're comfortable with, and something they can "teach" others in our community .... Your thoughts, feedback? - Randy On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Leigh Blackall < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And of course, anyone is free to participate in the 2 teacher training courses we have on Wikied already (though they are designed for higher education practitioners who have ready access to the Internet). * <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?b9EVjhuphpdIL6zBYQsCzAQsLCM0pyhmnEdSStoY0 1Me-Ayc9g8yHJoyHF_xYy1_yF_X64E4hlqeSDaTCXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQh whCl9R9A7wZQfpwUobj3NNNxnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVc SqmM5AlAd8dSStoCBQQg0LQzh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsO pEw47oOJFEwxVyxEwScVmfYQkCV-7PNo_pgdFCQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> Flexible Learning * <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?2OqekQnCkmjrbNEVvd79EVd7bVI04oAlBW3tJDmf0 0s5ZJ8-kZDa14lH0-kf5lRmUiDbW6XZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZ QfpwUobj3NNNxnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8d SStoCBQQg0LQzh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEw xVyxEwScVmfYQkCV-7PNo_pgdICQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> Online Facilitation These 2 courses run twice a year, and informal participation is welcome for anyone anywhere. I am continuously looking for ways in which formal tuition and assessment can be made entirely free, but at the moment I can only offer informal participation for free. What's the difference? Personal learning support and a piece of paper at the end that says you are good to go to NZ standards. Shortly, we will have more of our teacher training courses available in this model, and many of the others may be more appropriate for secondary teachers and other practitioners who do not have ready access to the Internet. So, with more and more of these sorts of courses becoming available in all sorts of versions of FREE, I think teacher training in Africa could well be offered for free. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Wayne < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Randy, Teacher education is a huge challenge -- particularly in Sub-Saharan Africa. I think there are ways in which the WikiEducator community can help. A couple of thoughts - 1. With considerable surprise and celebration :-) -- I now see that the Teacher Education in Sub-Saharan Africa (TESSA) project is using a CC-BY-SA license!!!!! --- Previously they were using a non-free content license -- so it seems that some of the lobbying and noise has rendered positive results :-). See: <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5AQsFELcEICSnzhO-qejhOqenPo0avQFHIpmTwrw5 Y4illFOH0VslJm4_xdE80wPbP1SNDaN_J104igepq2083p-H90V54QsCXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAa JMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZQfpwUobj3NNNxnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYy rhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8dSStoCBQQg0LQzh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SI jh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEwxVyxEwScVmfYQkCV-7PNo_pgdI6QnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF5 7x_hbi4> http://www.tessafrica.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Ite mid=119 I'll get in touch with the TESSA organisers and start exploring ways we can support TESSA in the achievement of their objectives -- for example, L4C training workshops in building capacity for content development. 2. Declan McCabe has pioneered and innovative model for student teachers to engage in OER content development. We can build on this experience in connecting teacher education institutions around the world --- mmm lots of potential here! See: <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?b9EVjhuphpdIL6zBYQsCzAQsLCM0hyhmnEdSStoY0 1MpBk-F4IaOwa-vWLMDIiMHiNeJjW6XZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7w ZQfpwUobj3NNNxnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8 dSStoCBQQg0LQzh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFE wxVyxEwScVmfYQkCV-7PNo_pgdLCQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.wikieducator.org/Biology_in_elementary_schools 3. Vincent Kiza, is a Ugandan teacher and serves on our Council. We should get in touch with Vincent for ideas. In fact, very soon Gayaza High School will be hosting a L4C workshop. Also, WhiteEagle from Germany (WE Council member) and Vincent are laying the foundations for the Center for innovative physics teaching in Uganda ( <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?2OqekQnCkmjrbNEVvd79EVd7bVI04oAlBW3tJDmf0 0s1fEo5ER4vJcl2N-Mxa170ChS26CXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZ QfpwUobj3NNNxnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8d SStoCBQQg0LQzh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEw xVyxEwScVmfYQkCV-7PNo_pgdK6QnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.wikieducator.org/Ted/Project_Planning/Uganda ) I'm pretty sure that more ideas will emerge --- but we certainly have a few good leads to follow. Good thinking Randy! Cheers Wayne On Sat, 2008-12-06 at 12:51 -0800, Randy Fisher wrote: Hi Everyone, I came across this news item (December, 2008) in the Independent Online, from South Africa) Teachers should be trained for free in order to try to close SA's current 20 000-plus teacher shortfall, the SA Council of Educators said on Thursday. "Considering the low levels of intake at teacher-training facilities and the high costs of training... the Council calls for free teacher training for all prospective teachers, with immediate effect," said SACE CEO Rej Brijraj on Thursday. Link: <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?ICzBd5VB5ASOYqenPhOqejhO-r01iGvRGYarw5Y4i lfCaOgehq208IvaNklAwsztZE80zoP5p87gc9TKYyDtx5NZVdwsDsivhuu7ndTWX3yr2b9EVjKrK r8N8lrxrOX9eiNoMTKXEz0zcGjGj8f1XEuP1MMmC7zzz2KSaOxeJ2pRGDY011h6Ji9_AoRrmFOVJ dxBV4SyCCYUUqenC7zrOpIQJwb8H8qgrJIWNdbFEw1vF6y04_JyvNEq81wDlIZ0Qg3fCy04NSkfg d43JoCy0nz_Cy0Qk35mVAPh08eNBrjh13P53h1IpOIvVEFdPYfDyN-Owr76QnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVd JMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=105&art_id=nw20081204165824 720C518870 *** I have a few comments / questions: * What role could WikiEducator in addressing this skills shortage in general; and in particular with respect to teacher training? * Do we have teacher training materials available, or how can we facilitate collaborative development of more? * I recall that our New Zealand colleagues are interested in teacher education, as is India's NCERT - <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?mjhOCyYOyOrpud7bVEVd79EVvdw0Em-c-xaTixxzP R_U7CXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZQfpwUobj3NNNxnr5pgDmxcWR j-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8dSStoCBQQg0LQzh02vSNfUQd4 0MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEwxVyxEwScVmfYQkCV-7PNo_pg dL6QnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.ncert.nic.in/welcome.asp ~ who specifically is interested in teacher training? * Please do share your ideas, thoughts and suggestions... - Randy -- -- Leigh Blackall +64(0)21736539 skype - leigh_blackall SL - Leroy Goalpost <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?mjhOCyYOyOrpud7bVEVd79EVvdw0P_ScaMfB3-cly wJ7WkVsTvHIe9I8ICzBeVKVIz4xlK5LbIAVb5z3uXKyc2cOFeFcwY7KxXc731qoueecaXoHa4WQ9 DmGvM0454qR8D-hzlJqDbCQS6nAjqaqrPzxEVuoudL9CPiS0IyIxF1KSPH4QKCy05-Aq80j-S9_6 xEw62tmPQ3h0c-q80j7pgZ0QgeRyq81uf-q83hgclrCjd40wX6lJd44fckd46NDaN_CyATfM-ub7 Xa1IQsCQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://learnonline.wordpress.com <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?b9EVjhuphpdIL6zBYQsCzAQsLCM0hyhmnEdSStoY0 1M9Q-agl-h4CgfSNnjPPt-KMUCMyOqekXCXCOci5mUmYKOjAImcdXKW8M8PaAWAO3MuW7IMsc5Fx UUUMHJyIEjHgCtqF_00gkhHkyvV6dmRGsKrjopuhdEFFLee6zBVxUSYCrdbo2OaO6A6XreIjiWq8 0nWhEw1fXoDYq6y0o9Rrfgd40PVEw1ctB3Q3h0Xm9Ew5U_VEwd50NlKpcQg23IpmQQggYNgQgr6s H7-qajs_3VUIvIE6QrCQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Leighblackall -- ________________ Randy Fisher - Change Management & Collaboration, Human Performance & Engagement, Sustainable Communities & Organizations * Engaging People in Teams, Communities and Organizations....and WikiEducator! + 1 604.684.2275 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5AQsFELcEICSnzhO-qejhOqenPo08N8HbQ6XreIu0 0CXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZQfpwUobj3NNNxnr5pgDmxcWRj-0 0wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8dSStoCBQQg0LQzh02vSNfUQd40Mj GSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEwxVyxEwScVmfYQkCV-7PNo_pgdEE CQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.wikieducator.org <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?mjhOCyYOyOrpud7bVEVd79EVvdw0z4yILgrJIWNU0 3wBlllK4FBxkrZ2mCXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZQfpwUobj3NNN xnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8dSStoCBQQg0LQ zh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEwxVyxEwScVmfY QkCV-7PNo_pgdEFCQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.wikieducator.org/Community_Media <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5AQsFELcEICSnzhO-qejhOqenPo08N8HbQ6XreIu0 0U4Wv585X10IXaxfUCXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZQfpwUobj3NN Nxnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8dSStoCBQQg0L Qzh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEwxVyxEwScVmf YQkCV-7PNo_pgdEICQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher * Cool WikiEducator Video on YouTube: <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?1pd7aqbPab9JBUQsLCzAQsCzBYS02blrCSg_BYcre NcApeDoQsBN867xEJg3CXZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZQfpwUobj3 NNNxnr5pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8dSStoCBQQg 0LQzh02vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEwxVyxEwScV mfYQkCV-7PNo_pgdEI6QnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc9-CNlIqsY * Can You Do the Wiki-Wiki? <http://console.mxlogic.com/redir/?5AQsFELcEICSnzhO-qejhOqenPo08N8HbQ6XreIu0 0U0IyIxk1p5p6XZtxNdx5AQsFTdTdAoAaJMJVtAD9oIorTtQhwhCl9R9A7wZQfpwUobj3NNNxnr5 pgDmxcWRj-00wEzmF4_OcqJHkVsSCMOYyrhjjussd7bP3NJVcSqmM5AlAd8dSStoCBQQg0LQzh02 vSNfUQd40MjGSuwq81DPh02oXa7E6y1SIjh0bN_Ph0qa1yHsOpEw47oOJFEwxVyxEwScVmfYQkCV -7PNo_pgdELCQnPrbNEVvd7bzNEVdJMkF57x_hbi4> http://www.wikieducator.org/Wiki_Wiki Skype: wikirandy <br --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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