Wayne, I am very glad you mentioned that "Wikis are first and foremost about community --- our growth and success is the result of a committed and dedicated community of educators, taking the strengths (and weaknesses) of our technology into account. Remove the technology -- we still have a community". We try to show the nature of the closely-knit community in the Learning 4 Content workshops. WE members are always ready to help others. Warm wishes, Nellie Deutsch Sharing is Caring! http://www.nelliemuller.com Doctoral Student Educational Leadership Curriculum and Instruction Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ Free online workshops on WikiEducator: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <[email protected] > wrote: > Hi Paul, Randy > > Great discussion --- and very important contribution in building > sustainable OER futures :-). > > A couple of thoughts -- Rich Text Editing is always a topical issue in > Mediawiki circles: > > - Wikis are first and foremost about community --- our growth and > success is the result of a committed and dedicated community of educators, > taking the strengths (and weaknesses) of our technology into account. > Remove > the technology -- we still have a community :-). > - To date, we have been reluctant to implement Rich Text Editing (RTE) > in the absence of a committed funding source to ensure a successful > implementation. That barrier has now been removed with the NZ Ministry of > Education project to support proper integration and implementation of RTE > in > WikiEducator :-). Kudos to the NZ MOE! > - We should always provide freedom of choice -- our intention is to > implement the RTE as an optional "skin" -- this way experienced > WikiEducator > editors will have the choice of continuing with standard wiki editing -- > which is faster and provides more control. However, at the same time we > will > be able to provide Newbies an easy to use alternative to contributing to > the > project. A classic win-win scenario. > - A big issue with RTE is the challenge associated with high use > templates (eg our pedagogical templates and navigation templates.) With > thanks to a solid research paper commissioned by the NZ MOE, we have now > specified a workable solution for these templates with the added advantage > of combining the experience of the eXe project's work on iDevices. This > will > make WikiEducator rock! > > Now that WikiEducator is an independant project under the OER Foundation -- > we have more scope to integrate technology innovation. Previously working > under the auspices of an international agency -- we did not have the remit > to engage in major software development initiatives. This is one of the > reasons why it was important to set up WikiEducator as an independant > project. > > We are now in a very strong position to focus on a core WikiEducator value, > namely "a *forward-looking disposition* working together to find > appropriate and sustainable solutions for e-learning futures." > > Lets make the future happen! > > Cheers > Wayne > > > > > 2009/9/6 Randy Fisher <[email protected]> > > Hi Paul, >> >> When the 'late majority' (Geoffrey Moore's Crossing the Chasm model, - >> which Wayne isn't too crazy about! <smile>) come to the party (via Rich Text >> Editing), they will join the Innovators and Early Adopters (who know wiki >> syntax), and will find a thriving community of peers. I think this is >> critically important for folks who are technically savvy, and those who are >> not.....that they are joining and participating with a group of folks who >> have 'experienced a different experience', and are ready to share and learn >> from, and with each other. >> >> It will be most interesting to see how things evolve in the not too >> distant future! <smile> >> >> - Randy >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Paul Seiler >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> Randy, I have found your views to be true and I ask NZ teachers about >>> WE, both those involved in L4C29 and those not yet trained. I do not >>> think we will reach a critical mass of teachers contributing/modifying >>> OER without a FCK (or the like), as they will always say they are too >>> busy learning other new things (like our new curriculum, for example >>> http://nzcurriculum.tki.org.nz/). >>> >>> There will always be those willing to learn wiki syntax or who already >>> know it, but my experience shows that this is a very minority of NZ >>> teachers. >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> On Sep 6, 1:28 am, NELLIE DEUTSCH <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Gurmit, >>> > You build it, and they will come. I suggest you start a page on >>> WikiEducator >>> > and I for one will definitely join. I started the mentoring project you >>> were >>> > interested in way back and would love to see your input. >>> > Warm wishes, >>> > Nellie Deutsch >>> > Sharing is Caring!http://www.nelliemuller.com >>> > Doctoral Student >>> > Educational Leadership >>> > Curriculum and Instruction >>> > Get ready for CO10:http://connecting-online.ning.com/ >>> > Free online workshops on WikiEducator: >>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops >>> > >>> > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Gurmit Singh <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hello everyone, >>> > >>> > > As I compare and assess various approaches and frameworks for using >>> > > learning technologies effectively and efficiently, I wanted to ask if >>> > > anyone is interested in discussing how developing OER ca optimize >>> > > knowledge transfer at a distance. >>> > >>> > > This is a big emerging question in my field, which is organizing HIV >>> > > AIDS workshops, conferences and e-learning, as we try and assess >>> which >>> > > will be the path to success for the next 5 years, bringing technology >>> > > strategically into our work. >>> > >>> > > I look forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas, >>> > >>> > > Thanks >>> > > Gurmit >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> PS. Here's a link to some info about me: >> http://www.wikieducator.org/User:Randyfisher >> >> ________________ >> Randy Fisher MA, OMD >> Senior Consultant, Intersol Group >> Ottawa, Canada >> >> * Change Management, Learning & Performance >> * Stakeholder Engagement, Virtual Collaboration & Communities of Practice >> * Organization Design & Development >> * Coaching & Facilitation >> * E-Learning >> >> >> + 1 604.684.2275 (Pacific Time) >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.wikieducator.org - Member, WikiEducator Community Council >> >> Skype: wikirandy >> >> "Open Education is a Sustainable & Renewable Resource. >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. > Director, > International Centre for Open Education, > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > Board of Directors, OER Foundation. > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380 > Skype: WGMNZ1 > Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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