Hi Wayne, I did. Works fine. Am happy - am sure can get more people to contribute to WE this way.
Savithri 2009/9/27 Wayne Mackintosh <[email protected]> > Hi Savithri, > > I agree -- I think this additional option will expand participation in our > project. > > If you like, you can test and see how this WYSIWYG editing works by > visiting the MediaWiki+FCKeditor project. Create an new account on this > wiki and test the editor by clicking the edit tab using the sandbox on this > wiki: > > http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/Sandbox > > Cheers > Wayne > > > 2009/9/27 Savithri Singh <[email protected]> > >> Dear Wayne, >> >> Then I see no reason why we should hesitate to switch. WE `are only >> providing an additional option. >> >> Cheers, >> Savithri >> >> 2009/9/27 Wayne Mackintosh <[email protected]> >> >> Good qeustion Savithri >>> >>> The FCKeditor extension for Mediawiki converts the text into wiki syntax >>> :-), which means that users can still continue editing in the conventional >>> way. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Wayne >>> >>> 2009/9/27 Savithri Singh <[email protected]> >>> >>>> Dear Wayne, >>>> >>>> WYSIWYG will definitely be useful for people who are diffident of >>>> working with syntax - it will help more people to contribute to WE. >>>> >>>> Tell me something - if a page is created via WYSIWYG then later can we >>>> edit it our conventional way? Then even embedding templates can ebe done. >>>> >>>> Allowing WYSIWYG is a great initiative. >>>> >>>> Savithri >>>> >>>> >>>> 2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <[email protected]> >>>> >>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>> >>>>> Well, since my interest lies in active learning and engaging learners, >>>>> I would like invite those with common interests to join me in >>>>> brainstorming >>>>> to find ways to engage members of the community. >>>>> >>>>> Warm wishes, >>>>> Nellie Deutsch >>>>> Sharing is Caring! >>>>> Doctoral Student >>>>> Educational Leadership >>>>> Curriculum and Instruction >>>>> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ >>>>> Free online workshops on WikiEducator: >>>>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Wayne Mackintosh < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Nellie >>>>>> >>>>>> Would always welcome another 11,000 active members :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Wayne >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <[email protected]> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wayne, >>>>>>> You are very modest about the amount of work you put into making >>>>>>> things happen on WE. I would like to invite the over 11,000 members of >>>>>>> WikiEducator to become active participants. >>>>>>> There is a great deal each of us can do to share the load and show >>>>>>> the world that WE is an active community that is bringing education and >>>>>>> learning to everyone on the planet. >>>>>>> Warm wishes, >>>>>>> Nellie Deutsch >>>>>>> Sharing is Caring! >>>>>>> Doctoral Student >>>>>>> Educational Leadership >>>>>>> Curriculum and Instruction >>>>>>> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ >>>>>>> Free online workshops on WikiEducator: >>>>>>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 1:08 AM, Wayne Mackintosh < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Nellie, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the kind words :-) -- but it's not just me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have a sterling team of volunteer techies with folk like Jim and >>>>>>>> Wen-Chen watching over smooth operations of our web sites and future >>>>>>>> technology deployments, we also have a team of WikiEDTech advisers >>>>>>>> plus the >>>>>>>> folk over at Athabasca University preparing for the migration of the >>>>>>>> servers. We have funders like the NZ Ministry of Education and Hewlett >>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>> are helping us spread the reach of OER across the planet. We shouldn't >>>>>>>> forget our committment to transparent and democractic governance >>>>>>>> models with >>>>>>>> a team of 25 international open education professionals who volunteer >>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>> ensuring the stewardship of good governance. Above all -- the >>>>>>>> thousands of >>>>>>>> educators who spend hours working on OER in WikiEducator. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That said -- the independance we now have with the OER Foundation >>>>>>>> (see: http://tinyurl.com/nnqg9e) gives us greater flexibility and >>>>>>>> agility than was possible working under an intergovernmental agency. >>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>> still have lots of work to do -- but have a very solid foundation for >>>>>>>> scalable growth. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our next step is to figure out the best way to implement the >>>>>>>> embedding of third party media (like video, slideshows etc) and this >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> high on our list of priorities. The question of embedding third party >>>>>>>> media >>>>>>>> is not so much a technical barrier, but more a question of free content >>>>>>>> licensing and open file formats. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Increasingly, video hosting sites now provide functionality to tag >>>>>>>> user rights -- for example Creative Commons Licenses. In an ideal >>>>>>>> world, we >>>>>>>> would want the capabilities for WikiEducators to have access to >>>>>>>> editable >>>>>>>> versions of the video files in open file formats. We're certainly a lot >>>>>>>> closer to achieving this goal today than we were a year ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Watch this spaces -- pretty soon we will be able to embedd video >>>>>>>> from third party sites in ways which align with our community values! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> Wayne >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2009/9/27 NELLIE DEUTSCH <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Excellent progress, Wayne. I am very impressed by the amount of work >>>>>>>>> and progress you are making to "make things happen" on WikiEducator >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> implementing WYSIWYG. I wonder if adding the editor would also allow >>>>>>>>> publishers to embed html codes for videos. >>>>>>>>> Warm wishes, >>>>>>>>> Nellie Deutsch >>>>>>>>> Sharing is Caring! >>>>>>>>> Doctoral Student >>>>>>>>> Educational Leadership >>>>>>>>> Curriculum and Instruction >>>>>>>>> Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/ >>>>>>>>> Free online workshops on WikiEducator: >>>>>>>>> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Wayne Mackintosh < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For sometime our Community has requested that we implement a >>>>>>>>>> WYSIWYG editor in WikiEducator. Many teachers and educators say >>>>>>>>>> that wiki >>>>>>>>>> text is a barrier to participation. WikiEducator is keen to respond >>>>>>>>>> to these >>>>>>>>>> requests. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To date, we've been holding back on implementing rich text editing >>>>>>>>>> for two reasons: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Maturity of the WYSIWYG technology (Most notably issues with >>>>>>>>>> templates and large content pages) >>>>>>>>>> - A reliable funding source to implement the refinements that >>>>>>>>>> will be necessary for an educational wiki >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The MediaWiki+FCKeditor project has matured considerably over the >>>>>>>>>> last 2 years and we believe that it is now feasible to install >>>>>>>>>> WYSIWYG >>>>>>>>>> editing for WikiEducator. Also, with funding support from the New >>>>>>>>>> Zealand >>>>>>>>>> Ministry of Education we are now in a position to start work on the >>>>>>>>>> implementation of refinements that will be required for educators >>>>>>>>>> (for >>>>>>>>>> example, pull down menus for our pedagogical templates incorporating >>>>>>>>>> text >>>>>>>>>> boxes for the different parameters for these templates). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We need to cater for two kinds of users: 1) Those (like myself >>>>>>>>>> ;-) ) who prefer wiki syntax to rich text editing and (2) those >>>>>>>>>> users who >>>>>>>>>> would prefer using a WYSIWYG environment. Fortunately -- the >>>>>>>>>> FCKeditor >>>>>>>>>> enables users to make the choice. Even within the FCKeditor -- there >>>>>>>>>> is an >>>>>>>>>> option to edit using wiki text. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> NOTE: Experienced WikiEducators can continue to edit in the usual >>>>>>>>>> way -- They will NOT be required to switch over to Rich Text Editing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I propose that we use a phased approach: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - *Phase 1*: Install the FCKeditor WYSIWYG editor as an >>>>>>>>>> optional user preference. The editor works well for the majority >>>>>>>>>> of editing >>>>>>>>>> functions, however the implementation for templates is not ideal >>>>>>>>>> and could >>>>>>>>>> be confusing for newbies. That said, newbies do not typically >>>>>>>>>> start using >>>>>>>>>> templates until they are more experienced and experienced editor >>>>>>>>>> will know >>>>>>>>>> how to use templates should they choose to use the RTE option. >>>>>>>>>> Therefore, I >>>>>>>>>> think the advantages outweigh the disadvantages in holding back >>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>> implementation until we get a better user interface for editing >>>>>>>>>> templates. >>>>>>>>>> There will be a few pages in WikiEducator where the rich text >>>>>>>>>> editor will >>>>>>>>>> not work effectively -- for example pages which are largely >>>>>>>>>> rendered through >>>>>>>>>> templates. On these pages we will turn-off RTE editing. These >>>>>>>>>> pages are >>>>>>>>>> maintained by experienced editors -- so there shouldn't be any >>>>>>>>>> issues in >>>>>>>>>> maintaining these pages. During Phase 1, there is a possibility >>>>>>>>>> that we will >>>>>>>>>> not have WYSIWYG capability for talk pages or the template >>>>>>>>>> namespace. >>>>>>>>>> - *Phase 2*: Continue with development work regarding the >>>>>>>>>> refinements we need for an educational wiki. These enhancements >>>>>>>>>> will be >>>>>>>>>> released once tested and reliable at a later stage during the >>>>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> WikiEducators can test how WYSIWYG editing works using the >>>>>>>>>> MediaWiki+FCKeditor project. Create an account and test the editor >>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>> the sandbox on this wiki: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net/Sandbox >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please try this out and let us know what you think. Thoughts and >>>>>>>>>> suggestions are welcome! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think that this is an important and valuable step for >>>>>>>>>> WikiEducator and that we should be bold and move forward with the >>>>>>>>>> suggestion. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> Wayne >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. >>>>>>>>>> Director, >>>>>>>>>> International Centre for Open Education, >>>>>>>>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. >>>>>>>>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation. >>>>>>>>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, >>>>>>>>>> www.wikieducator.org >>>>>>>>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 >>>>>>>>>> Skype: WGMNZ1 >>>>>>>>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. >>>>>>>> Director, >>>>>>>> International Centre for Open Education, >>>>>>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. >>>>>>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation. >>>>>>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, >>>>>>>> www.wikieducator.org >>>>>>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 >>>>>>>> Skype: WGMNZ1 >>>>>>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. >>>>>> Director, >>>>>> International Centre for Open Education, >>>>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. >>>>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation. >>>>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, >>>>>> www.wikieducator.org >>>>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 >>>>>> Skype: WGMNZ1 >>>>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह >>>> प्रधानाचार्य >>>> आचार्य नरेन्द्र देव कॉलेज >>>> ( दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय ) >>>> गोविन्दपुरी, कालकाजी >>>> नयी दिल्ली 110019 >>>> >>>> Dr. Savithri Singh >>>> Principal >>>> Acharya Narendra Dev College >>>> (University of Delhi) >>>> Govindpuri, Kalkaji >>>> New Delhi 110 019 >>>> >>>> Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 >>>> Fax: (011) 2629 4540 >>>> Res: 2584 8151 2584 9786 2584 3496 >>>> >>>> http://andcollege.du.ac.in >>>> http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College >>>> http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl >>>> http://wikieducator.org/India >>>> http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch >>>> http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. >>> Director, >>> International Centre for Open Education, >>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. >>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation. >>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org >>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380 >>> Skype: WGMNZ1 >>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह >> प्रधानाचार्य >> आचार्य नरेन्द्र देव कॉलेज >> ( दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय ) >> गोविन्दपुरी, कालकाजी >> नयी दिल्ली 110019 >> >> Dr. Savithri Singh >> Principal >> Acharya Narendra Dev College >> (University of Delhi) >> Govindpuri, Kalkaji >> New Delhi 110 019 >> >> Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 >> Fax: (011) 2629 4540 >> Res: 2584 8151 2584 9786 2584 3496 >> >> http://andcollege.du.ac.in >> http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College >> http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl >> http://wikieducator.org/India >> http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch >> http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. > Director, > International Centre for Open Education, > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > Board of Directors, OER Foundation. > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380 > Skype: WGMNZ1 > Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg > > > > -- डॉक्टर सावित्री सिंह प्रधानाचार्य आचार्य नरेन्द्र देव कॉलेज ( दिल्ली विश्वविद्यालय ) गोविन्दपुरी, कालकाजी नयी दिल्ली 110019 Dr. Savithri Singh Principal Acharya Narendra Dev College (University of Delhi) Govindpuri, Kalkaji New Delhi 110 019 Tel: 2629 4542, 2629 3224, 2641 2547 Fax: (011) 2629 4540 Res: 2584 8151 2584 9786 2584 3496 http://andcollege.du.ac.in http://wikieducator.org/Acharya_Narendra_Dev_College http://wikieducator.org/User:Savi.odl http://wikieducator.org/India http://wikieducator.org/India/wikieducator_launch http://www.slideshare.net/singh.savithri --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WikiEducator" group. 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