Hi Edward, BTW -- congrats on the progress with the open text book project. Well done! (Have been a little snowed under to get to the posts on the list :-(.)
>From a values perspective that sounds very reasonable. Personally I don't have the technical knowledge to assess any security related issued with embedding links to external code. This is way above my salary level ;-) That said -- I know that you will be able to provide us with valuable advise on the security issues -- have a chat with Jim. Lets see what we can do. Cheers Wayne On 26 February 2010 18:22, Edward Cherlin <[email protected]> wrote: > I am interested in embedding links to Python and Smalltalk software of > considerable generality, including graphics, animations, and video, > and then capturing videos for posting elsewhere. > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 19:26, Wayne Mackintosh > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Everyone, > > > > In the past we've received requests from many community members to > implement > > the functionality to embed links to video hosted on third party sites (eg > > Youtube, BlipTV Vimeo etc). Now that WikiEducator is hosted independently > by > > the OER Foundation, we have more flexibility and autonomy to take a > > community decision concerning on third party video. > > > > Do WikiEducators want the ability to embed links to video clips? > > What is the best way for us to take this decision? > > Should we have a trial period to see how this works? > > > > We need and invite your feedback -- so please post your replies to this > > list. We will consider all feedback posted over the next two weeks, > before > > deciding on the next steps. Apology for the long email -- but I provide > some > > discussion points below. Third party video is not a simple matter when it > > comes to the values and meaning of freedom as interpreted by our > community > > values. > > > > Discussion > > > > Embedding video is not a simple question of turning a switch to enable > links > > to third party hosted video. Technically speaking, this is relatively > easy > > to achieve. However, there are many issues associated with digital video > > and our core values of the WikiEducator project which we need to > consider, > > most notably the essential freedoms. > > > > WE subscribe to the free cultural works definition and WE need to find a > > solution which aligns with what we believe as a community OER project. > I've > > been sound boarding a few ideas with colleagues and friends and would > > appreciate your input and feedback on a few baseline requirements and > > suggestions. > > > > Licensing. We must be able to identify and search for appropriately > > licensed video content. This is to ensure that video content we embed > > adheres to the requirements of the definition of free cultural works. In > > practice this means we can only use video hosting sites which clearly tag > > their video content with the relevant copyright license as well as > > corresponding search functionality to identify resources which are > > appropriately licensed (eg. CC-0, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, GFDL and the public > > domain declaration), Therefore, Youtube (for example) would not meet > this > > requirement as their existing conditions of service would not enable the > > implementation of license tagging. Currently WIkiEducator users would not > be > > able to differentiate openly licensed videos from all rights reserved > > content. However, BlipTV allows users to choose from a number of Creative > > Commons licenses to apply to their work, and videos are searchable by > > license. This would enable WIkiEducators to use the Creative Commons > search > > (http://search.creativecommons.org/) facility to easily identify > > appropriately licensed video on BlipTV. > > Open file formats. This is a requirement to ensure that our content is > > stored and accessible in formats which can be edited using free/open > source > > software. In addition this means that source files should be available > for > > download. No WikiEducator should be forced to purchase a license for > > non-free software in order to remix and create a derivative work from our > > site. Most video sites (with the exception, for instance, of the > Wikimedia > > Commons) encode video for web delivery using the Flash Video Format (flv) > > which is a proprietary file format. BlipTV provide a service for their > > registered users who also have an account with the Internet Archive > > (http://blip.tv/prefs/archiveorg/ ). In short this facility enables > > archiving of downloadable video files including the open file format (ogg > > Theora). Therefore, WikiEducator users who upload video files to BlipTV > > could register for the Internet Archive service making it easier for > > educators to download video in the formats of their choice for remix > > purposes. However, this feature would not solve the problem of open file > > formats for the video uploaded by BlipTV users who do not register for > the > > Internet Archive service. Fortunately BlipTV provides the functionality > to > > download the video files, even though these are generally supplied in the > > flv (proprietary file format). The open source FFmpeg project > > (http://www.ffmpeg.org/) provides tools to convert flv files into open > file > > formats. Therefore, all WikiEducator would have access to free software > > tools for remixing source video, thus meeting the requirements of the > free > > cultural works definition. > > > > Therefore the BlipTV hosting site would provide a service which aligns > with > > our values. There are also Mediawiki wiki extensions available for > embedding > > BlipTV video on WikiEducator pages. > > > > Pending a positive assessment of the stability and security of the BlipTV > > extensions for WikiEducator -- Would the community consider moving > forward > > with providing capability for embedding BlipTV video on the WikiEducator > > site along the lines suggested above? > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Cheers > > Wayne > > > > > > > > -- > > Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. > > Director, > > International Centre for Open Education, > > Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. > > Board of Directors, OER Foundation. > > Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > > Mobile +64 21 2436 380 > > User Page: http://wikieducator.org/User:Mackiwg > > Skype: WGMNZ1 > > Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > > To visit the discussion forum: > http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > > > -- > Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin > Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. > The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. > http://www.earthtreasury.org/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "WikiEducator" group. > To visit wikieducator: http://www.wikieducator.org > To visit the discussion forum: http://groups.google.com/group/wikieducator > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > -- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D. Director, International Centre for Open Education, Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand. 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