Hi Everyone --

Wow -- its nearly weekend again. How time flies when you having fun!

Thanks for the contributions and reflections on the question to
consider embedding links to rich media hosted by third party sites.
We're now a working week into thinking about these questions and have
another working week to add thoughts ideas and suggestions before
considering a trial implementation.

I've summarised our progress to date in the wiki:

http://wikieducator.org/WikiEducator:Embedding_links_to_third_party_content

Please take a look and see whether this encapsulates our thinking and
core values.

In  a number of offline conversions I've had with colleagues, the
question of ancillary services / data has arisen. Ancillary data
refers to services which are not part of the core mission of
WikiEducator -- in other words data which are not OER. Examples would
include RSS feeds from blogs keeping the community up to date,
discussion forum feeds, calendar widgets to help with planning
projects.

For pragmatic reasons this would appear to be a workable compromise.
We do not have authority over the technology policies, for instance of
blogging services used by WikiEducator members. Where these feeds or
data do not constitute OERs hosted by WIkiEducator, I think this would
fall under our obligations to respect freedom of choice.

Is this a fair and reasonable interpretation?  I've added a suggestion
that in the case of Ancillary I have suggested that WE would encourage
the use of service providers that provide exports in open file
formats.

Let us know what you think -- we have a working week left to consider
feedback.

Cheers
Wayne







On Feb 19, 1:26 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> In the past we've received requests from many community members to implement
> the functionality to embed links to video hosted on third party sites (eg
> Youtube, BlipTV Vimeo etc). Now that WikiEducator is hosted independently by
> the OER Foundation, we have more flexibility and autonomy to take a
> community decision concerning on third party video.
>
>    - Do WikiEducators want the ability to embed links to video clips?
>    - What is the best way for us to take this decision?
>    - Should we have a trial period to see how this works?
>
> We need and invite your feedback -- so please post your replies to this
> list.  We will consider all feedback posted over the next two weeks, before
> deciding on the next steps. Apology for the long email -- but I provide some
> discussion points below. Third party video is not a simple matter when it
> comes to the values and meaning of freedom as interpreted by our community
> values.
>
> *Discussion*
>
> Embedding video is not a simple question of turning a switch to enable links
> to third party hosted video. Technically speaking, this is relatively easy
> to achieve. However,  there are many issues associated with digital video
> and our core values of the WikiEducator project which we need to consider,
> most notably the essential freedoms.
>
> WE subscribe to the free cultural works definition and WE need to find a
> solution which aligns with what we believe as a community OER project. I've
> been sound boarding a few ideas with colleagues and friends and would
> appreciate your input and feedback on a few baseline requirements and
> suggestions.
>
>    - *Licensing.*  We must be able to identify and search for appropriately
>    licensed video content. This is to ensure that video content we embed
>    adheres to the requirements of the definition of free cultural works. In
>    practice this means we can only use video hosting sites which clearly tag
>    their video content with the relevant copyright license as well as
>    corresponding search functionality to identify resources which are
>    appropriately licensed (eg. CC-0, CC-BY, CC-BY-SA, GFDL and the public
>    domain declaration), Therefore,  Youtube (for example) would not meet this
>    requirement as their existing conditions of service would not enable the
>    implementation of license tagging. Currently WIkiEducator users would not 
> be
>    able to differentiate openly licensed videos from all rights reserved
>    content. However, BlipTV allows users to choose from a number of *Creative
>    Commons* licenses to apply to their work, and videos are searchable by
>    license. This would enable WIkiEducators to use the Creative Commons search
>    (http://search.creativecommons.org/) facility to easily identify
>    appropriately licensed video on BlipTV.
>    - *Open file formats. *This is a requirement to ensure that our content
>    is stored and accessible in formats which can be edited using free/open
>    source software. In addition this means that source files should be
>    available for download. No WikiEducator should be forced to purchase a
>    license for non-free software in order to remix and create a derivative 
> work
>    from our site. Most video sites (with the exception, for instance, of the
>    Wikimedia Commons) encode video for web delivery using the Flash Video
>    Format (flv) which is a proprietary file format. BlipTV provide a service
>    for their registered users who also have an account with the Internet
>    Archive (http://blip.tv/prefs/archiveorg/). In short this facility
>    enables archiving of downloadable video files including the open file 
> format
>    (ogg Theora). Therefore, WikiEducator users who upload video files to 
> BlipTV
>    could register for the Internet Archive service making it easier for
>    educators to download video in the formats of their choice for remix
>    purposes. However, this feature would not solve the problem of open file
>    formats for the video uploaded by BlipTV users who do not register for the
>    Internet Archive service.  Fortunately BlipTV provides the functionality to
>    download the video files, even though these are generally supplied in the
>    flv (proprietary file format). The open source FFmpeg project (
>    http://www.ffmpeg.org/) provides tools to convert flv files into open
>    file formats. Therefore, all WikiEducator would have access to free 
> software
>    tools for remixing source video, thus meeting the requirements of the free
>    cultural works definition.
>
> Therefore the BlipTV hosting site would provide a service which aligns with
> our values. There are also Mediawiki wiki extensions available for embedding
> BlipTV video on WikiEducator pages.
>
> Pending a positive assessment of the stability and security of the BlipTV
> extensions for WikiEducator -- Would the community consider moving forward
> with providing capability for embedding BlipTV video on the WikiEducator
> site along the lines suggested above?
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Cheers
> Wayne
>
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director,
> International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,www.wikieducator.org
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