On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 4:45 AM, Christopher Grant <[email protected]> wrote: > X! you missed out adminbots(e.g. Miza's). > > - Chris > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 12:03 PM, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 2008/12/26 John Reaves <[email protected]>: >> >> > So it comes down to whether or not we care more about a positive PR image >> or >> > being able to maintain an encyclopedia without disruption and harassment >> > from one of the biggest idiots we've ever had? I know what my choice >> would >> > be... >> >> >> I'm describing how this has been done in the past and why. PR isn't >> the reason, it's a consideration. >> >> I predict that such an ISP-wide block as we're describing here would >> go block, unblock, block, unblock x10, stop at unblock, arbitration, >> trout slaps and desysops all round for idiot blocking and wheel >> warring. Though it might shake loose the lower decile of admins. >> (That's an unintended side benefit, not a reason to do it either.) >> >> The reason the wheel of fat would stop at "unblock" is that the secret >> of blocks on Wikipedia is: they're just minor speed humps; you can't >> keep someone from editing if they *really* want to without shutting >> down the wiki. That's what "soft security" means and that's why we use >> it. Would your average reader or even editor know who the hell Grawp >> is in this context? No, they wouldn't. (They wouldn't because quite a >> few people work hard to make it that way, but nevertheless.) >> >> There's no point disrupting editing for large chunks of Verizon >> because this would just cause Grawp to go elsewhere. We're talking >> about someone who's clearly pathologically dedicated to this task. >> >> There is no cure for vandalism on Wikipedia while humans are humans. >> >> >> - d. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >
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