By the way, I ask those questions having read the bots user page. It is
apparently quite effective,  indicating to me that this user causes minimal
disruption.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Brian <[email protected]> wrote:

> What percentage of his page moves were not picked up automatically by a
> bot?
>
> What percentage of this users vandalism is not picked up by a bot?
>
> Why is the ISP responsible for what he dumps into Wikipedia, rather than
> Wikipedia, as it allows itself to be a dumping ground? The Viacom/Youtube
> lawsuit demonstrates that this is a legal grey area, thus, I see little
> ground on which to punish the entire ip range of the ISP.
>
> Why are machine learning bots that are trained on previous vandalism in
> order to detect new vandalism not being used? They have been developed. Why
> is the Foundation not funding their further development?
>
> I believe the direction of this thread has been all wrong.
>
> Peace,
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Soxred93 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The problem with that is that many articles we have would not be
>> found in any dictionary.
>>
>> X!
>>
>> On Dec 29, 2008, at 6:02 PM [Dec 29, 2008 ], Ian Woollard wrote:
>>
>> > On 29/12/2008, Joe Szilagyi <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Allow blocking on a more granular level, if we know his ISP, and lock
>> >> out moves and redirects for the whole damn ISPs, and specifically
>> >> point the finger back in the block message: Blocked because of
>> >> JarlaxleArtemis/Grawp with a nice shiny link to his long-term abuse
>> >> page.
>> >
>> > It probably wouldn't work because of proxies and people that would
>> > emulate/help him.
>> >
>> > Still, ideas that would affect less people rather than more like that
>> > are almost certainly IMO the way to go; for example restricting the
>> > range of characters and checking that the move title consists of words
>> > in a dictionary before permitting non admins or users with a small
>> > number of edits to complete a move might be desirable.
>> >
>> >> - Joe
>> >
>> > --
>> > -Ian Woollard
>> >
>> > We live in an imperfectly imperfect world. Life in a perfectly
>> > imperfect world would be much better.
>> >
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