The explosion of comments from outright reliable sources (Raph Koster and Richard Bartle, even when blogging, are reliable secondary sources) makes this a clear-cut notable article at present. I may recreate, using Bartle and Koster exclusively as two sources.
But yes - the point stands. Contentious AfDs - including ones that got wide attention off of Wikipedia - should be closed by someone with knowledge about the subject, or at least a consult. Go talk to an editor in the area. Hell, go to WikiProject Video Games, ask for a consult. If you don't know the topic and it's a controversial AfD, don't close it. -Phil On Jan 10, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Fred Bauder wrote: > "Wikipedia editors should really have enough knowledge about their > subject matter to make choices based on good judgement rather than > strict > adherence to flawed guidelines. Any guideline, law or contract doesn’t > absolve one from using one’s brain — these things are just > frameworks for > handling worst-case scenarios better. > > http://www.unwesen.de/articles/wikipedia_on_mud_history > > This is what is frustrating to me. Although I am not recognized > expert on > MUDs, I know enough that the decision made is obviously wrong, while > those making the decision seem entirely innocent of the subject. > > Fred > > >> >> On Jan 10, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Michel Vuijlsteke wrote: >> >>> Nothing exceptional about this, of course: >>> http://www.massively.com/2009/01/06/mud-history-dissolving-into-the-waters-of-time/ >>> >>> Sigh. >> >> Gah. What's bothersome here is that it has a Computer Gaming Magazine >> reference and a quote from Bartle, one of the iconic figures in MUD >> design. Those are two significant references. But the CGM reference >> was actually *ignored* in the deletion close because it was >> unverified. >> >> Yes. Now we're treating print referencing with suspicion and >> hostility. Fucking brilliant. >> >> -Phil >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
