On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Carcharoth <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Anthony <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Ray Saintonge <[email protected]>
> wrote
> >
> >> > 2009/2/23 Carcharoth <[email protected]>:
> >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Bowen
> >> It's a great example of maudlinism run rampant.  Why this 2-year old,
> >> and not another who died of cancer?
> >
> > Just pure random luck.
>
> "luck" was probably not the right word there, in this context.
>

I was being sarcastic.  Obviously there are reasons that there's an article
about Ben Bowen and not about every 2-year old that died of cancer.  In
fact, there's at least one good one:  There are not verifiable sources for
every 2-year old that died of cancer.

I was listening to Wikipedia Weekly from a short while ago when they were
discussing what should be in Wikinews vs. what should be in Wikipedia vs.
what should be in both, and I think a case could be made that the story of
Ben Bowen is a good candidate for Wikinews instead of Wikipedia.  I think
it's a useful story, and belongs somewhere (along with, in my opinion,
stories about even less publicized 2-year-olds so long as they can be
derived from verifiable sources).  But it does seem out of place in an
encyclopedia - the impact of this particular child will likely not be
historically significant 20 years from now, though I think it will provide a
glimpse into the culture in which we live.  Newspaper archives are a good
source for such cultural information, I'd think.  The [[StoryCorps]] project
is also archiving this "slice of life" type information, although they're
doing it in a way which doesn't enforce verifiability.

That said, I don't think Wikinews is currently in a state where it can
handle this type of content, and I have no problems with it living in
Wikipedia until there's a more suitable home (I know, this notion is
blasphemous, but I'm an outsider so I can make such blasphemous
statements).  A Wikinews article on Ben Bowen would likely look completely
different from the Wikipedia article on him, and I think it'd necessarily be
worse instead of better or even just different.
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