No, you argued that I should not oppose the current measure because it was all that could pass.
My response is, better than nothing passes. Now you are arguing something else. Andrew Turvey wrote: > No, my argument is not spurious - it's to the point. We operate in a > community, and there are plenty of things I would do differently too if I had > my way with everything. There's zero point in pursuing proposals that are > strongly opposed by a significant section of the community. "Majority" > (50%+1) is not good enough for something as important as this. > > As another poster said: "Dont break the community". Flagged revisions and the > increasing trend towards deletionism are the two developments that have the > greatest risk of doing exactly that. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "doc" <[email protected]> > To: "English Wikipedia" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009 23:45:19 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, > Portugal > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged revs poll take 2 > > Your argument is spurious. > > It may well be that this proposal is the only one that would pass - but > that neither means that it is good, nor that it is a good thing that it > is passing. > > The proposal IMO is damaging to the cause of using flagged revisions in > a manner that will help BLP victims. > > Doing nothing would be better than this. > > Your argument is the logical fallacy that because "something must be > done" means "anything is better than the status quo", or that "any > movement is a step in the right direction" - which does not consider > that one can move, and move in the wrong direction. > > > Andrew Turvey wrote: >> And yet this poll seems to have significantly more support across the board >> than any other proposal that has been put forward. If there's another way of >> taking it forward that would have sufficient support, let's hear it. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "doc" <[email protected]> >> To: "English Wikipedia" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, 30 March, 2009 23:23:31 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, >> Portugal >> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged revs poll take 2 >> >> Nathan wrote: >>> Two more problems: >>> >>> 1) This just barely made it on the watchlist notice, with a whopping one >>> day >>> for further participation. >>> >>> 2) None of the details on how the trial will actually work have been >>> determined. Questions and opposition along these lines have been primarily >>> met with "We'll work that out when the poll closes." >>> >>> Nice. >>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> (expanded opinion at >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Avruch/FlaggedRevs_vs._NPP) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikiEN-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >>> >> >> First sensible response I've seen to this. I thought I was on my own as >> being a determined BLP warrior (or worrier) who opposed this ridiculous >> thing. >> >> It seems to be a victory of "something must be done - and this is >> something" over common sense. >> >> This does nothing at all for BLP subjects, screws flagged revisions, and >> introduces a nightmare, all at once. >> >> Nice indeed. >> >> Scott >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
