Sorry, I meant "better that nothing passes" doc wrote: > No, you argued that I should not oppose the current measure because it > was all that could pass. > > My response is, better than nothing passes. > > Now you are arguing something else. > > Andrew Turvey wrote: >> No, my argument is not spurious - it's to the point. We operate in a >> community, and there are plenty of things I would do differently too if I >> had my way with everything. There's zero point in pursuing proposals that >> are strongly opposed by a significant section of the community. "Majority" >> (50%+1) is not good enough for something as important as this. >> >> As another poster said: "Dont break the community". Flagged revisions and >> the increasing trend towards deletionism are the two developments that have >> the greatest risk of doing exactly that. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "doc" <[email protected]> >> To: "English Wikipedia" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, 31 March, 2009 23:45:19 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, >> Portugal >> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged revs poll take 2 >> >> Your argument is spurious. >> >> It may well be that this proposal is the only one that would pass - but >> that neither means that it is good, nor that it is a good thing that it >> is passing. >> >> The proposal IMO is damaging to the cause of using flagged revisions in >> a manner that will help BLP victims. >> >> Doing nothing would be better than this. >> >> Your argument is the logical fallacy that because "something must be >> done" means "anything is better than the status quo", or that "any >> movement is a step in the right direction" - which does not consider >> that one can move, and move in the wrong direction. >> >> >> Andrew Turvey wrote: >>> And yet this poll seems to have significantly more support across the board >>> than any other proposal that has been put forward. If there's another way >>> of taking it forward that would have sufficient support, let's hear it. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "doc" <[email protected]> >>> To: "English Wikipedia" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, 30 March, 2009 23:23:31 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, >>> Portugal >>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged revs poll take 2 >>> >>> Nathan wrote: >>>> Two more problems: >>>> >>>> 1) This just barely made it on the watchlist notice, with a whopping one >>>> day >>>> for further participation. >>>> >>>> 2) None of the details on how the trial will actually work have been >>>> determined. Questions and opposition along these lines have been primarily >>>> met with "We'll work that out when the poll closes." >>>> >>>> Nice. >>>> >>>> Nathan >>>> >>>> (expanded opinion at >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Avruch/FlaggedRevs_vs._NPP) >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WikiEN-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >>>> >>> First sensible response I've seen to this. I thought I was on my own as >>> being a determined BLP warrior (or worrier) who opposed this ridiculous >>> thing. >>> >>> It seems to be a victory of "something must be done - and this is >>> something" over common sense. >>> >>> This does nothing at all for BLP subjects, screws flagged revisions, and >>> introduces a nightmare, all at once. >>> >>> Nice indeed. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikiEN-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikiEN-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> _______________________________________________ >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >
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