On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:53 AM, stevertigo <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Luna<[email protected]> wrote: > > > It's almost as if the vast bulk of discussion takes place on the wiki, or > > something. > > So, anyway, no. High level dispute resolution deliberations don't seem > to happen on the wiki, and this has brought about a general lack of > responsiveness, and has also negated open discussion itself to a > certain degree. My points are easier to refute when you change them, yes. I didn't say "arbcom", I said "vast bulk". Arbcom is involved in only a tiny fraction of disputes, and then only after prior resolution mechanisms have failed. Unless you're suggesting this mailing list would replace arbcom, I can't say that I'm sure what you're getting at, there. > > That, specifically, is something I find missing from your proposal: an > > earnest explanation of what this gives us that on-wiki discussion cannot. > > Personally, I think it sounds likely to fragment discussion and encourage > > forum shopping, aside from giving people the feeling they've been run > around > > -- even if you personally have a firm idea of the list's remit, other > people > > will not. > > An open mailing list for dispute resolution will bring about greater > openness and wikilove. How? What will it add that the wiki and current mailing lists cannot? You've argued that we should centralize discussion, and then you propose fragmenting it with a new list. I'm not sure if I can follow that. Wouldn't it be reasonable to start discussion here, and fork in the event that discussion overwhelms other list traffic? > > > Your increasingly incessant personal attacks and use of the royal "we" -- > > what else could you be referring to? -- are a but off-putting, as well. > > I appreciate the fact that someone perceived as making personal > attacks will be chastised by you and others, but the fact of the > matter is that I have never made any personal attacks against Cary or > anyone else in this matter. A couple sarcastic or pointy responses to > similarly sarcastic or rude commentary do not qualify. Your > "incessant" term is a gross mischaracterization. Interesting that you deny making any personal attacks, and yet you immediately leap to defend specific comments, as if you knew exactly which ones I might be referring to. Hm! Anyway, you seem to have knocked that off lately. Thanks. -Luna _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
