On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Emily Monroe <[email protected]> wrote: >> "Delete on sight" is unwiki, and violates several of our core >> policies that supercede BLP including NPOV and CIVIL and their >> subordinates. > > True, but I see a lot of articles at new page patrol that also violate > NPOV, CIVIL, or both. "I run this great business" is POV, not to > mention SPAM. "Emily smells funny" violates CIVIL, and probably NPOV, > too. It's astonishing to see how obvious somebody will violate > Wikipedian article standards because they don't know what they're > doing, and I wish there was a more civil way to fix that problem > besides speedying their article and leaving them a "Welcome to > Wikipedia! Your first article really sucks!" temp message.
I understand of course that there are things which legitimately need to be removed and without any deliberation. We generally aren't talking about speedy deletes, but the grey areas that require deliberation. As deliberation requires discussion, the plain fact is that discussions themselves must run their course and not be violated or gamed one way or another - in the deletion context we understand deletionism itself is the default modality. The main issue with BLP is the *time bomb fallacy* - the unnerving notion that bad articles and statements are like bombs that need to be removed within minutes or else things will blow up Seigenthaller-style. Since BLP policy inevitably goes back to Siegenthaller, we would do well to remember that the slander in his bio article was there for a lot longer than just a few minutes. If someone saw the article even a month before he did, they could have corrected it, and the eventual inevitable blowup over Wikipedia's "reliability" would have come from somewhere else. The point is to *slow down, and respect ongoing discussion.* I pointed out the disparity between the speedy-deletionistas and the slow-undeletionists at [[WP:DRV/SV/ONS#Fastness-ness and slowness-ness]]. Just having an XFD template at the top of a problematic article generally mitigates any issue of liability - we are being upfront and attentive about dealing with any substantive issues. Regards, Stevertigo PS: Please be sure to keep the byline/attribution on the quotes you are responding to. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
