Ken Arromdee wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: > >> Why is this any different from any other kind of "arcana"? And do people >> really lose sleep over this sort of thing? There must be a huge amount >> of insider-like knowledge associated with politics, sport, business, >> whatever. If we wait until this becomes "information" - is documented in >> at least some literature about the area - that should be fine. Most >> specialist areas have at least a magazine. I don't think simply >> multiplying instances where at the margin the content policy works as it >> is intended to by itself undermines its purpose. >> > > The Internet is available to hundreds of millions people. I think that > disqualifies anything on it from being insider information. > My experience on working on BLPs exactly contradicts that. You find postings to BLPs often consist of "well-known" "facts" that have been publicised using the Web, but are positive PR or attack material designed to harass, and not reliably sourced at any point in their life-cycle, though there will be "insiders" who know the truth of it all. > And the policy isn't working as it's intended to. The reliable sources rule > isn't supposed to rule out arcana. We have rules that are actually about > arcana to handle that. (Though I'm not sure exactly what the reliable sources > rule is for. It's not, of course, about truth.) > Correct, in the sense that the assertion "this is true because I know it to be" appeals to authority. That the policy is not working out as intended is what is required to prove here. > And even this excuse doesn't work for the Bradley example. Having only one > side of a dispute because one side of the dispute is a published author and > can more easily get her side published in a reliable source certainly isn't > "arcana". > You are shifting ground there, of course. It is true that in a sense we have subordinated NPOV to RS, by saying we are not going to allow vague assertions that there is more than one side to a story, only things we can verify.
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