On 24/08/2010, Fences Windows <[email protected]> wrote: > Sounds like Pure wiki deletion: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pure_wiki_deletion_system (and that's > not a good thing).
It's nothing to do with that at all. It's about using a jury, rather than judicial system. > Also see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_reform. > > If normal admin deletion were retained (which it will be), a jury system > would make AfD like a trial: editors make arguments for and against deletion, > acting as the prosecution, defense, and witnesses, then the jury decides the > outcome, which an admin (judge) enacts, presumably with veto power if the > jury has > decided something crazy. No veto power. You would go through DRV. > Are admins generally making such bad decisions that > we need to replace their decisions with laborious jury panels? What laborious? The jury can just independently read the evidence and vote. They don't even have to give a reason (unlike right now, where a reason is required to try to head off outright fraud, but if that doesn't work, people can just state a fake reason). > ArbCom works as a jury panel, and it moves at snail's pace. Snails are animals and they move at a snail's pace. Therefore all animals move at a snail's pace? > Remember that we do have DRV for > controversial decisions. A simpler change, which I've proposed before, would > be to require admins to give a rationale for their close on any AfD that is > not > unanimous. They still can say more or less whatever they want, it doesn't remove bias from an administrator in any way. The bias is often in who decides the AfD. > DRV allows participants in the original debate to take part, which is > somewhat flawed. A jury system could work for DRV, as there would be a > managable > workload compared to assessing every single XfD decision. The system would > need to > have a way of involving active editors in 'jury duty', which is tricky for a > volunteer project. Different schemes could be used, as I imagine it could happen, the review would be open for a while, and then it would close and over (say) a couple of days or so the jury would vote on it. > F&W -- -Ian Woollard _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
