There's also a massive problem with the non-"dodgy" countries. I edit under my real name. I've had multiple death threats from people physically proximate to me. The WMF should not DEMAND this, or even ask for it. The idea that "oh, this is laudable, you should be proud!" ignores that there are lunatics out there, or simply people who do not share your worldview, and they have access to google.
On 8 April 2015 at 15:21, Alan Liefting <alieft...@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > I use my own name on WMF sites. I was warned against doing that not long > after I started editing back in 2004. Ten years later and as a hothead > editor having my real identity known does not seem to be a problem. > > Most editors use an alias. I don't know why. What are they afraid of? > Editing wikis, if you are doing it right, is a laudable task and editors > should be proud of the fact that they are helping to share knowledge in an > altruistic manner. > > Rather than ensuring privacy of editors the WMF should DEMAND that editors > make their identity known. I am sure that this may cure some of the many > problems that we are seeing on WMF projects. > > Having said all that there is of course a problem in some of the dodgy > countries where speaking out gets you killed. It has happened with > journalists, bloggers, activists etc. It could (has?) happen with WMF > project editors. > > > Alan Liefting > > > > > > On 09/04/15 00:06, Andrea Forte wrote: >> >> The discussion here has been great. I've been keeping out of it since I >> have an active research project and I don't want to seed my own ideas, but >> to circle back to the original post... if anyone here would like to >> contribute their experiences with privacy on Wikipedia to our project, >> please consider doing an interview. This is not related to the lawsuit, >> btw, we started the project before that happened. >> >> The consent form is here: >> http://drexel.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_elzNLEUeTjIphrv >> >> Thanks, >> Andrea >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:00 AM, WereSpielChequers < >> werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> There is an important difference here. The WMF does not publicly log the >>> IP >>> addresses of visitors to the site. >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Privacy_policy#your-use-of-wm-sites> It >>> does however publish the IP addresses of editors who are not logged in. >>> >>> I could understand the elitist claim if the WMF were more privacy >>> conscious >>> of editors than readers. But it isn't, if anything the divide is a three >>> way one, with unregistered editors as the ones who by default have least >>> privacy >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> On 5 April 2015 at 21:18, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> I propose we run a study. We will survey random editors >>>> >>>> I always find it curious that we had dozens or hundreds of threads on >>>> having IPs in history: this worry is very elitist, at most few millions >>>> people ever edited. >>>> >>>> What about the hundreds millions users who never edited? What are >>>> *their* >>>> IPs being logged for? It would be rather trivial to do as the IA does: >>>> >>> >>> http://blog.archive.org/2013/10/25/reader-privacy-at-the-internet-archive/ >>>> >>>> I'll start worrying about the millions when we have solved privacy >>>> issues >>>> for the billions. >>>> >>>> Nemo >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WikiEN-l mailing list >>>> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WikiEN-l mailing list >>> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >>> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- Oliver Keyes Research Analyst Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
