Hello,

I have too little time for this and I am already overworked.  I expect when I 
use an uploadwizard that it makes it more easy for me to upload, this 
uploadwizard makes it harder with less possibilities and no easyness at all 
what I should expect from a "wizard". Just cutting the uploadform in pieces 
doesn't make it easier. It has also been made more difficult with too much 
intollerance.

For now my last reply in this subject, I just wanted to make clear that the 
current wizard isn't working as it should be for an official contest. I hope an 
adjusted normal uploadform would be available just as it was with the edition 
in 2010. 

Greetings - Romaine

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, Siebrand Mazeland <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Siebrand Mazeland <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UploadWizard prototype
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" 
<[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 2:15 PM

Hi romaine. From what I can read, you do not like the upload wizard for some 
reason. Can you please be more (or rather *very*) precise in what is wrong with 
it, andPoint to the relevant bug reports in http://bugzilla.Wikimedia.org that 
document these issues so that there is just the slightest chance the currently 
apparently blocking issues can be addresseed by those who should.

--Siebrand Mazeland
M: +31 6 50 69 1239Skype: siebrand
Op 20 aug. 2011 om 15:31 heeft Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> het 
volgende geschreven:

The current uploadwizard is too corrupt and doesn't work correctly as at least 
we should expect. The onliest way it works correct is when a user accidentally 
fills it in perfectly, but that isn't the daily practice. If an uploadwizard is 
meant to be for dummies, then it should be dummyproof, and the current unstable 
uploadwizard isn't that at all and is too buggy. That is unacceptable to me for 
an official contest. I think it would be fantastic if we would get an 
uploadwizard that **really** makes it easier for people who have little 
experience with it, but the current uploadwizard makes it more difficult for 
them.

Greetings - Romaine
(organizing WLM BE/LUX)

--- On Sat, 8/20/11, Kilian Kluge <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Kilian Kluge <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UploadWizard prototype
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" 
<[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2011, 1:12 PM

Hi Romaine,
please keep in mind that the target group for the upload wizard are mainly 
non-wikipedians and hopefully also people that are new to computers (e.g. 
60-year-old hobby photographers), and those will be very confused by the usual 
forms. The upload wizard divides the upload process (that is a very natural 
thing to you and me and everybody involved with WLM) into small steps and 
therefore is easier to complete.

Wikipedians and especially those who will upload hundreds of pictures will rely 
on Commonist and other tools, they can categorize their uploads by hand.

On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello all,

I am not happy at all with uploadwizard. The uploadwizard at Commons is 
annoying, this one is worse. I am certainly not going to send users to this 
uploadwizard. I just need one page in what users can fill in everything, 
including the monument-id. If that is too much asked for, fine, then we need to 
create our own uploadform.


Greetings - Romaine
(organizing WLM BE/LUX)


--- On Fri, 8/19/11, Maarten Dammers <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Maarten Dammers <[email protected]>
Subject: [Wiki Loves Monuments] UploadWizard prototype
To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" 
<[email protected]>

Date: Friday, August 19, 2011, 7:28 PM


  

    
  
  
    Hi everyone,

    

    The new upload wizard is available at
    
http://commons.prototype.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UploadWizard?campaign=wlm-nl
    now. Please play around with it and report any issues at 
https://secure.wikimedia. org/wikipedia/commons/ wiki/Commons:Wiki_ 
Loves_Monuments_ 2011/Upload_wizard
      

      

      Thank you!

      

      Maarten

    
  


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