On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 09:58:12AM +0200, Jane Darnell wrote: > Hi all, Hi Jane,
> I just uploaded a file with the new upload wizard and I tried to see > Romaine's problem but couldn't. Personally I don't see the problems at all, I think it will work fine for the target audience and, because you can more easy upload multiple files, also work for the more experienced user. > > As I see it, this is simply a copy of our current upload wizard, with the > monument ID field added. Is this correct? If so, I miss the storyboard, > which I suppose is our responsibility to create. Or are we not going to > include a WLM storyboard for the WLM upload? I do think it might help to have a storyboard, but not sure if hiding of that will work per campaign or overall. > > My other issue is with the confusing pre-selected field about "I, [name], > the uploader...", since the license is part of our basic instructions I > really don't think we need to bother about this at all. We want to cut out > every non-necessary step, since each extra step means the potential loss of > a WLM uploader. This field appears edittable, and it should not even be > shown at all. Everything for WLM is CC-by-SA 3.0, and if not, well, sorry > about that mistake, but who cares? Theoretically these mistakes will > eventually be picked up by somebody in the normal "Wikimedia Commons way". I think this step should remain in, but it should be more clear that this is a 'confirmation step', so like 'yes, I do want to give it under this licence'. It should be clear what the edit field is for. > > I like it that you can add extra categories in the upload wizard, but I am > asking myself if this is really necessary, since we will autocategorize > everything. As others have pointed out, the more experienced users can > always click on the file and add categories with hotcat, or even use > Commonist. The category structure on Commons is confusing at best, and I > really don't want to send our WLM participants down that road at all. As this is hidden behind an 'optional' button, I don't think this is a problem, leave it in for those that want to use it. > > What I really want to know is if the category check is done immediately for > the number; because otherwise, what happens to those wrong numbers? I think > the user should be offered a chance to say "Yes, this is town X" or at least > "Yes, this is country X". It is also nice for the user to have some kind of > confirmation that the file is eligible for the contest, since the two > useability links produced at the end do not indicate this at all. As said before, the uploadform doesn't have database access, so this is as far as I know not possible. We also didn't see lots of problems with it last year. Regards, Andre > > Jane > > 2011/8/20 Siebrand Mazeland <[email protected]> > > > > I have too little time for this and I am already overworked. I expect > > > when I use an uploadwizard that it makes it more easy for me to upload, > > > this uploadwizard makes it harder with less possibilities and no easyness > > > at all what I should expect from a "wizard". Just cutting the uploadform > > > in pieces doesn't make it easier. It has also been made more difficult > > > with too much intollerance. > > > > > > For now my last reply in this subject, I just wanted to make clear that > > > the current wizard isn't working as it should be for an official contest. > > > I hope an adjusted normal uploadform would be available just as it was > > > with the edition in 2010. > > > > > > Greetings - Romaine > > > > It's too bad that you are not making an effort to point out exactly what > > is wrong, but are stating it does not meet your expectations or standards > > twice, that are, mind you, not written down anywhere. > > > > Without clarification, your objections are unsubstantial. > > > > Siebrand > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
