Hi Jane,

Op 2-9-2011 10:40, Jane Darnell schreef:
Romaine and Maarten,
After a difficult few hours, I did manage to create a set of templates (table header + table row) for one town in Wallonia here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_beschermd_erfgoed_in_Beauvechain
Good start!

Some points of improvement:
* "Beschermd erfgoed" is Dutch. That should be something English. You probably also want to rename the templates * Not sure what's up with the multiple languages. Shouldn't French and Dutch be removed once we have English?
* Don't forget the interwiki!

Maarten


I think I get the mails you sent here much better now! I will try to finish up the lists for Wallonia later and then I will look at the ones for Brussels and Vlanders after that.

Jane

2011/8/31 Maarten Dammers <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Porting one set of monuments from one Wikipedia to another can be
    done in a couple of hours.
    * Copy the header template. Rename and translate it.
    * Copy the row template. Rename the template, rename the
    parameters and translate it.
    * Copy all the lists to your user space (like
    user:Multichill/<original title>)
    * Using regular expressions change the names of the templates and
    the parameters and add an interwiki link

    These are the steps that take up the most time:
    * Have users check and translate the lists in your userpage
    * Once a list is checked, more it to main space

    Maarten

    Op 31-8-2011 1:57, Romaine Wiki schreef:
    Hello Jane,

    The government has decided that specific objects are classified
    as monuments, and that includes also old monumental trees,
    buildings, graveyards, and complete sites.

    You can also create tables yourself without table-templates, but
    we noticed that using these templates for the tables we found it
    easier to adjust something everywhere. In particular it is also
    useful for bots/tools to put automatically new pictures in the
    lists based on the given id-number of the template-row. In that
    way all lists on all wiki's pictures easily can be added, in all
    the languages the lists have been created in. And that will be in
    future many languages.

    Greetings - Romaine

    --- On *Tue, 8/30/11, Jane Darnell /<[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]>/* wrote:


        From: Jane Darnell <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
        Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM BE/LUX
        completed + Belgian Chapter
        To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition"
        <[email protected]>
        <mailto:[email protected]>
        Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 9:08 PM

        Romaine,
        OK I understand now - there are trees in there as well as
        buildings, but OK, I will try to look at this tomorrow.

        Do I need Tabelkop and tabelrij templates? Can't I just
        convert the stuff in Excel and make a new table using the
        table generator excel2wiki?
        Jane

        2011/8/30 Romaine Wiki <[email protected]
        <http://mc/[email protected]>>

            Hello Jane,

            If I take as example:
            
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_beschermd_onroerend_erfgoed_in_Watermaal-Bosvoorde

            Two templates are needed: the header (Tabelkop ...) and
            the row-template (Tabelrij ...). I think the parameters
            should be renamed to the language of the wiki, the header
            should be translated, and certainly the desriptions
            should be translated. Users from fr-wiki especially would
            like the lists of Brussels Capital Region to be
            translated to English, then more users can participate as
            well in translating to French.

            Was this what you wanted to know?

            Greetings - Romaine

            --- On *Tue, 8/30/11, Jane Darnell /<[email protected]
            <http://mc/[email protected]>>/* wrote:


                From: Jane Darnell <[email protected]
                <http://mc/[email protected]>>
                Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM
                BE/LUX completed + Belgian Chapter

                To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition"
                <[email protected]
                <http://mc/[email protected]>>
                Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 6:33 PM


                Romaine,
                If you explain what is needed I can try and do the
                lists in the English Wikipedia. Do I just need to
                translate the headers, or also all of the descriptions?
                Jane

                2011/8/29 Romaine Wiki <[email protected]
                <http://mc/[email protected]>>

                    About the lists:
                    * at nl-wiki we have all the lists from Flanders,
                    Wallonia, Brussels and Luxembourg translated into
                    Dutch.

                    * at fr-wiki there aren't any lists of monuments
                    of municipalities. However we have in Wallonia
                    and for Luxembourg information about the
                    monuments available in French, on the website and
                    in a pdf-file. We are still waiting for users
                    from fr-wiki to create those lists with the
                    monuments, and to undelete those which had been
                    created earlier but got deleted for no reason.
                    Who can take this up at fr-wiki: undelete and
                    create all the lists of Belgium and Luxembourg.

                    * at de-wiki not much has been done about
                    monuments in Belgium and Luxembourg, we are still
                    waiting for users of de-wiki who want to create
                    the lists of monuments on their wiki.

                    * at en-wiki the same situation, we are waiting
                    for users of en-wiki who can set up the lists.

                    Ans yes it is possible to get that done, as we
                    got that done too on nl-wiki. If help is needed
                    or the lists have been created, please let me know!


                    And the next step should be a Belgian chapter,
                    covering the country Luxembourg as well. We from
                    Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium/Luxembourg got
                    supported by Wikimedia Netherlands, Wikimedia
                    France and Wikimedia Deutschland. Let those
                    chapters also support us with the creation of the
                    Belgian chapter!

                    The logo we already have:
                    
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Belgium_logo.svg

                    And to make communication easier we need
                    http://be.wikimedia.org

                    Yes, help wanted!

                    Greetings - Romaine


                    --- On Sun, 8/28/11, Ziko van Dijk
                    <[email protected]
                    <http://mc/[email protected]>>
                    wrote:

                    > From: Ziko van Dijk <[email protected]
                    <http://mc/[email protected]>>
                    > Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM
                    BE/LUX completed
                    > To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph
                    Competition"
                    <[email protected]
                    
<http://mc/[email protected]>>
                    > Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 10:10 PM
                    > Hello,
                    >
                    > Very multilingual, very impressive.
                    >
                    > (It's a pity that the luxembourghish lists are
                    not in
                    > German still.)
                    >
                    > Kind regards
                    > Ziko
                    >
                    > 2011/8/28 Romaine Wiki <[email protected]
                    <http://mc/[email protected]>>:
                    > > Hello all,
                    > >
                    > > I have almost completed the website.
                    > > Ik heb de website vrijwel voltooid.
                    > >
                    > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be
                    > >
                    > > Greetings - Romaine
                    > >
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                    > >
                    
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                    > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > --
                    > Ziko van Dijk
                    > The Netherlands
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