Maarten, Thanks, I forgot about the interwiki (and now I realize I need the French ones too). I already created an article for Beschermd erfgoed as a name for Belgian national heritage sites, and we already use rijksmonument for Dutch national heritage sites on the English wikipedia, so I think this is OK. I would assume the French wikipedia would use "Bien classé" and the German wikipedia would use "kulturdenkmal", since all three terms are officially correct for Belgium, according to the VIOE.
One of my lists already got deleted for being non-English, but I am just copying the work done on the NL wiki with the alternate languages. I am now following Romaine's advice to create a new description descr_en and translating the Dutch. It's going much slower than I expected, but this should at least work! Jane 2011/9/3 Maarten Dammers <[email protected]> > Hi Jane, > > Op 2-9-2011 10:40, Jane Darnell schreef: > > Romaine and Maarten, > After a difficult few hours, I did manage to create a set of templates > (table header + table row) for one town in Wallonia here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_beschermd_erfgoed_in_Beauvechain > > Good start! > > Some points of improvement: > * "Beschermd erfgoed" is Dutch. That should be something English. You > probably also want to rename the templates > * Not sure what's up with the multiple languages. Shouldn't French and > Dutch be removed once we have English? > * Don't forget the interwiki! > > Maarten > > > > I think I get the mails you sent here much better now! I will try to > finish up the lists for Wallonia later and then I will look at the ones for > Brussels and Vlanders after that. > > Jane > > 2011/8/31 Maarten Dammers <[email protected]> > >> Porting one set of monuments from one Wikipedia to another can be done in >> a couple of hours. >> * Copy the header template. Rename and translate it. >> * Copy the row template. Rename the template, rename the parameters and >> translate it. >> * Copy all the lists to your user space (like user:Multichill/<original >> title>) >> * Using regular expressions change the names of the templates and the >> parameters and add an interwiki link >> >> These are the steps that take up the most time: >> * Have users check and translate the lists in your userpage >> * Once a list is checked, more it to main space >> >> Maarten >> >> Op 31-8-2011 1:57, Romaine Wiki schreef: >> >> Hello Jane, >> >> The government has decided that specific objects are classified as >> monuments, and that includes also old monumental trees, buildings, >> graveyards, and complete sites. >> >> You can also create tables yourself without table-templates, but we >> noticed that using these templates for the tables we found it easier to >> adjust something everywhere. In particular it is also useful for bots/tools >> to put automatically new pictures in the lists based on the given id-number >> of the template-row. In that way all lists on all wiki's pictures easily can >> be added, in all the languages the lists have been created in. And that will >> be in future many languages. >> >> Greetings - Romaine >> >> --- On *Tue, 8/30/11, Jane Darnell <[email protected]><[email protected]> >> * wrote: >> >> >> From: Jane Darnell <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM BE/LUX completed + Belgian >> Chapter >> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" >> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 9:08 PM >> >> Romaine, >> OK I understand now - there are trees in there as well as buildings, but >> OK, I will try to look at this tomorrow. >> >> Do I need Tabelkop and tabelrij templates? Can't I just convert the >> stuff in Excel and make a new table using the table generator excel2wiki? >> Jane >> >> 2011/8/30 Romaine Wiki >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> >> Hello Jane, >> >> If I take as example: >> >> http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_beschermd_onroerend_erfgoed_in_Watermaal-Bosvoorde >> >> Two templates are needed: the header (Tabelkop ...) and the row-template >> (Tabelrij ...). I think the parameters should be renamed to the language of >> the wiki, the header should be translated, and certainly the desriptions >> should be translated. Users from fr-wiki especially would like the lists of >> Brussels Capital Region to be translated to English, then more users can >> participate as well in translating to French. >> >> Was this what you wanted to know? >> >> Greetings - Romaine >> >> --- On *Tue, 8/30/11, Jane Darnell >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: Jane Darnell <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM BE/LUX completed + Belgian >> Chapter >> >> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 6:33 PM >> >> >> Romaine, >> If you explain what is needed I can try and do the lists in the English >> Wikipedia. Do I just need to translate the headers, or also all of the >> descriptions? >> Jane >> >> 2011/8/29 Romaine Wiki >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> >> About the lists: >> * at nl-wiki we have all the lists from Flanders, Wallonia, Brussels and >> Luxembourg translated into Dutch. >> >> * at fr-wiki there aren't any lists of monuments of municipalities. >> However we have in Wallonia and for Luxembourg information about the >> monuments available in French, on the website and in a pdf-file. We are >> still waiting for users from fr-wiki to create those lists with the >> monuments, and to undelete those which had been created earlier but got >> deleted for no reason. Who can take this up at fr-wiki: undelete and create >> all the lists of Belgium and Luxembourg. >> >> * at de-wiki not much has been done about monuments in Belgium and >> Luxembourg, we are still waiting for users of de-wiki who want to create the >> lists of monuments on their wiki. >> >> * at en-wiki the same situation, we are waiting for users of en-wiki who >> can set up the lists. >> >> Ans yes it is possible to get that done, as we got that done too on >> nl-wiki. If help is needed or the lists have been created, please let me >> know! >> >> >> And the next step should be a Belgian chapter, covering the country >> Luxembourg as well. We from Wiki Loves Monuments Belgium/Luxembourg got >> supported by Wikimedia Netherlands, Wikimedia France and Wikimedia >> Deutschland. Let those chapters also support us with the creation of the >> Belgian chapter! >> >> The logo we already have: >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Belgium_logo.svg >> >> And to make communication easier we need http://be.wikimedia.org >> >> Yes, help wanted! >> >> Greetings - Romaine >> >> >> --- On Sun, 8/28/11, Ziko van Dijk >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> > From: Ziko van Dijk >> > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> > Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Website WLM BE/LUX completed >> > To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> > Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 10:10 PM >> > Hello, >> > >> > Very multilingual, very impressive. >> > >> > (It's a pity that the luxembourghish lists are not in >> > German still.) >> > >> > Kind regards >> > Ziko >> > >> > 2011/8/28 Romaine Wiki >> > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> >: >> > > Hello all, >> > > >> > > I have almost completed the website. >> > > Ik heb de website vrijwel voltooid. >> > > >> > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.be >> > > >> > > Greetings - Romaine >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> > > [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> > > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Ziko van Dijk >> > The Netherlands >> > http://zikoblog.wordpress.com/ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> > [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> >> -----Inline Attachment Follows----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing >> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonumentshttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing > [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonumentshttp://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >
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