If we have good documentation of a church who are in the lists today and it burns down tomorrow its still the same monument. This is the case here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B8nefoss_Church I would love to have more pictures inside and outside. A set of pictures in WLM would help very much. Not only single photos but a set documenting the building. I am sorry I was not able to attend Amsterdam and tell you that time it´s easier to explain talking than writing.
Nina [email protected] Den 17. jan. 2012 kl. 19:01 skrev Jane Darnell: > Nina, > This subject has been mentioned a few times on this list. The problem > with monuments that have already disappeared is that there is no > "unique identifier" for them (unless the monuments list has not been > updated!). For monuments that are destroyed or torn down after WLM, I > guess the Wikimedia Commons pictures can remain as an archive, but > their "unique identifier" will probably eventually disappear from our > lists and the pictures will no longer be used on Wikipedia at all > (unless they were used in a separate article, for whatever reason). > > I suppose we could create a new category called "Former Monuments" or > something like that to put such pictures in, since they technically no > longer belong to the set of monuments we refer to as "the database". > To do this we probably need to add a new template. That takes care of > the case "WLM photo was already uploaded during a WLM competition, but > the monument has since been destroyed or torn down". > > I don't see how newly uploaded pictures of former monuments can be > eligible for the photograph competition unless we have unique > identifiers. Does anyone have any ideas on this? I agree with Nina > that this could be interesting from a cultural heritage standpoint. I > just don't see how we can include this in the project. > Jane > > 2012/1/16, Nina Wikipedia <[email protected]>: >> I have been thinking a lot, and it will be very useful to have sets of >> pictures who describe monuments. When we loose something in fire etc. those >> pictures are gold. Can we have a part of wlm this way? >> >> Nina >> Sendt fra min iPad >> >> Den 16. jan. 2012 kl. 22:58 skrev Lodewijk <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I guess it is time for a small update! Some work has been done already, >>> but mainly behind the screens and as a follow up of what was discussed in >>> Amsterdam in December. You can find already some start of documentation on >>> what Wiki Loves Monuments is/will be like on >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Documentation >>> (some things to be decided) and you will find an initial timeline for the >>> international organization on >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline >>> (thank you Tomasz!). An advised timeline for local organizing will follow >>> at the same page, but it might be helpful to just scroll through it and >>> appreciate the work ahead :) >>> >>> If you want to get started with organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in your >>> country, please don't hesitate to start making preperations! September >>> 2012 is closer than you think. Past experiences teach that especially >>> getting the infrastructure on the wiki (including getting the official >>> lists) is the most time consuming task which has to happen ahead of time. >>> For now, please add your country to >>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 if you >>> didn't do so yet. >>> >>> I am also happy to be able to say that four volunteers with a lot of 2011 >>> experience have been found to form a core coordination team for 2012 - >>> Maarten (Multichill), Elke (Elya), Tomasz (Odder) and myself will be >>> trying to coordinate efforts. Of course the main workload will still lay >>> with the national teams and also internationally any help will be >>> appreciated. We will do extra our best to create good documentation and I >>> hope that you all will ask your questions here and on the wiki in a timely >>> manner - that way we can avoid last minute discussions, misunderstanding >>> and other issues. Communication is always a challange, so I hope you will >>> help with that. >>> >>> Also, the board of Wikimedia Nederland has indicated to be willing to be >>> the budget holder for WLM 2012, and be the official organizer for the >>> international contest - you shouldn't notice a lot of that as long as >>> things go well, but we simply need an organization to be able to sign off >>> on things (such as a world record attempt ;-) ). If there are no major >>> objections, I'll ask the WMNL board to make that official soon. Also, >>> we're trying to find the best way possible to ensure there is a good >>> communication and task management on an international level. Last year we >>> found in the evaluation that this was a bottle neck which caused several >>> other things to go imperfect, so we're trying to find a way to give some >>> professional support to the international coordination - that way we can >>> make sure holes are being filled and there is a backbone present. I hope >>> that will help make things run more smoothly that way. >>> >>> I hope that 2012 will be an even greater contest - seeing all the >>> interested countries from over the world I am both enthusiastic and a >>> little intimidated - I hope we can set off a wonderful international >>> event. >>> >>> With kind regards, >>> >>> Lodewijk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
