I am thinking of every monument we still have. I want å good documentation of every part of the monument in sets for WLM and not one nice picture who tells nothing, or maybe both. If I write about http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cath%C3%A9drale_Notre-Dame_de_Paris I need pictures to describe the monument and WLM can help to get those pictures.
Nina [email protected] Den 17. jan. 2012 kl. 19:24 skrev Jane Darnell: > Nina, > The meeting in Amsterdam was very helpful. Hopefully you can make it > to another one. Face-to-face contact is still the fastest form of > communication for these things. > > I am sorry to hear about that church and I agree it would be great to > get more pictures of the church. Perhaps at the bottom of the page you > could make a request for pictures with a link to the talk page that > explains how to upload pictures (the commons uploader for WLM 2011 > still works, so you can inlcude that with the identifier already > filled in). > > Something like "This church burned on <date>. If you would like to > donate your pictures of this church to the archive, click here" > > Jane > > 2012/1/17, Nina Wikipedia <[email protected]>: >> If we have good documentation of a church who are in the lists today and it >> burns down tomorrow its still the same monument. This is the case here: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B8nefoss_Church I would love to have more >> pictures inside and outside. A set of pictures in WLM would help very much. >> Not only single photos but a set documenting the building. I am sorry I was >> not able to attend Amsterdam and tell you that time it´s easier to explain >> talking than writing. >> >> Nina >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> Den 17. jan. 2012 kl. 19:01 skrev Jane Darnell: >> >>> Nina, >>> This subject has been mentioned a few times on this list. The problem >>> with monuments that have already disappeared is that there is no >>> "unique identifier" for them (unless the monuments list has not been >>> updated!). For monuments that are destroyed or torn down after WLM, I >>> guess the Wikimedia Commons pictures can remain as an archive, but >>> their "unique identifier" will probably eventually disappear from our >>> lists and the pictures will no longer be used on Wikipedia at all >>> (unless they were used in a separate article, for whatever reason). >>> >>> I suppose we could create a new category called "Former Monuments" or >>> something like that to put such pictures in, since they technically no >>> longer belong to the set of monuments we refer to as "the database". >>> To do this we probably need to add a new template. That takes care of >>> the case "WLM photo was already uploaded during a WLM competition, but >>> the monument has since been destroyed or torn down". >>> >>> I don't see how newly uploaded pictures of former monuments can be >>> eligible for the photograph competition unless we have unique >>> identifiers. Does anyone have any ideas on this? I agree with Nina >>> that this could be interesting from a cultural heritage standpoint. I >>> just don't see how we can include this in the project. >>> Jane >>> >>> 2012/1/16, Nina Wikipedia <[email protected]>: >>>> I have been thinking a lot, and it will be very useful to have sets of >>>> pictures who describe monuments. When we loose something in fire etc. >>>> those >>>> pictures are gold. Can we have a part of wlm this way? >>>> >>>> Nina >>>> Sendt fra min iPad >>>> >>>> Den 16. jan. 2012 kl. 22:58 skrev Lodewijk <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I guess it is time for a small update! Some work has been done already, >>>>> but mainly behind the screens and as a follow up of what was discussed >>>>> in >>>>> Amsterdam in December. You can find already some start of documentation >>>>> on >>>>> what Wiki Loves Monuments is/will be like on >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Documentation >>>>> (some things to be decided) and you will find an initial timeline for >>>>> the >>>>> international organization on >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline >>>>> (thank you Tomasz!). An advised timeline for local organizing will >>>>> follow >>>>> at the same page, but it might be helpful to just scroll through it and >>>>> appreciate the work ahead :) >>>>> >>>>> If you want to get started with organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in your >>>>> country, please don't hesitate to start making preperations! September >>>>> 2012 is closer than you think. Past experiences teach that especially >>>>> getting the infrastructure on the wiki (including getting the official >>>>> lists) is the most time consuming task which has to happen ahead of >>>>> time. >>>>> For now, please add your country to >>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 if >>>>> you >>>>> didn't do so yet. >>>>> >>>>> I am also happy to be able to say that four volunteers with a lot of >>>>> 2011 >>>>> experience have been found to form a core coordination team for 2012 - >>>>> Maarten (Multichill), Elke (Elya), Tomasz (Odder) and myself will be >>>>> trying to coordinate efforts. Of course the main workload will still lay >>>>> with the national teams and also internationally any help will be >>>>> appreciated. We will do extra our best to create good documentation and >>>>> I >>>>> hope that you all will ask your questions here and on the wiki in a >>>>> timely >>>>> manner - that way we can avoid last minute discussions, misunderstanding >>>>> and other issues. Communication is always a challange, so I hope you >>>>> will >>>>> help with that. >>>>> >>>>> Also, the board of Wikimedia Nederland has indicated to be willing to be >>>>> the budget holder for WLM 2012, and be the official organizer for the >>>>> international contest - you shouldn't notice a lot of that as long as >>>>> things go well, but we simply need an organization to be able to sign >>>>> off >>>>> on things (such as a world record attempt ;-) ). If there are no major >>>>> objections, I'll ask the WMNL board to make that official soon. Also, >>>>> we're trying to find the best way possible to ensure there is a good >>>>> communication and task management on an international level. Last year >>>>> we >>>>> found in the evaluation that this was a bottle neck which caused several >>>>> other things to go imperfect, so we're trying to find a way to give some >>>>> professional support to the international coordination - that way we can >>>>> make sure holes are being filled and there is a backbone present. I hope >>>>> that will help make things run more smoothly that way. >>>>> >>>>> I hope that 2012 will be an even greater contest - seeing all the >>>>> interested countries from over the world I am both enthusiastic and a >>>>> little intimidated - I hope we can set off a wonderful international >>>>> event. >>>>> >>>>> With kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Lodewijk >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
