Nina, The meeting in Amsterdam was very helpful. Hopefully you can make it to another one. Face-to-face contact is still the fastest form of communication for these things.
I am sorry to hear about that church and I agree it would be great to get more pictures of the church. Perhaps at the bottom of the page you could make a request for pictures with a link to the talk page that explains how to upload pictures (the commons uploader for WLM 2011 still works, so you can inlcude that with the identifier already filled in). Something like "This church burned on <date>. If you would like to donate your pictures of this church to the archive, click here" Jane 2012/1/17, Nina Wikipedia <[email protected]>: > If we have good documentation of a church who are in the lists today and it > burns down tomorrow its still the same monument. This is the case here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B8nefoss_Church I would love to have more > pictures inside and outside. A set of pictures in WLM would help very much. > Not only single photos but a set documenting the building. I am sorry I was > not able to attend Amsterdam and tell you that time it´s easier to explain > talking than writing. > > Nina > [email protected] > > > > > Den 17. jan. 2012 kl. 19:01 skrev Jane Darnell: > >> Nina, >> This subject has been mentioned a few times on this list. The problem >> with monuments that have already disappeared is that there is no >> "unique identifier" for them (unless the monuments list has not been >> updated!). For monuments that are destroyed or torn down after WLM, I >> guess the Wikimedia Commons pictures can remain as an archive, but >> their "unique identifier" will probably eventually disappear from our >> lists and the pictures will no longer be used on Wikipedia at all >> (unless they were used in a separate article, for whatever reason). >> >> I suppose we could create a new category called "Former Monuments" or >> something like that to put such pictures in, since they technically no >> longer belong to the set of monuments we refer to as "the database". >> To do this we probably need to add a new template. That takes care of >> the case "WLM photo was already uploaded during a WLM competition, but >> the monument has since been destroyed or torn down". >> >> I don't see how newly uploaded pictures of former monuments can be >> eligible for the photograph competition unless we have unique >> identifiers. Does anyone have any ideas on this? I agree with Nina >> that this could be interesting from a cultural heritage standpoint. I >> just don't see how we can include this in the project. >> Jane >> >> 2012/1/16, Nina Wikipedia <[email protected]>: >>> I have been thinking a lot, and it will be very useful to have sets of >>> pictures who describe monuments. When we loose something in fire etc. >>> those >>> pictures are gold. Can we have a part of wlm this way? >>> >>> Nina >>> Sendt fra min iPad >>> >>> Den 16. jan. 2012 kl. 22:58 skrev Lodewijk <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I guess it is time for a small update! Some work has been done already, >>>> but mainly behind the screens and as a follow up of what was discussed >>>> in >>>> Amsterdam in December. You can find already some start of documentation >>>> on >>>> what Wiki Loves Monuments is/will be like on >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Documentation >>>> (some things to be decided) and you will find an initial timeline for >>>> the >>>> international organization on >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline >>>> (thank you Tomasz!). An advised timeline for local organizing will >>>> follow >>>> at the same page, but it might be helpful to just scroll through it and >>>> appreciate the work ahead :) >>>> >>>> If you want to get started with organizing Wiki Loves Monuments in your >>>> country, please don't hesitate to start making preperations! September >>>> 2012 is closer than you think. Past experiences teach that especially >>>> getting the infrastructure on the wiki (including getting the official >>>> lists) is the most time consuming task which has to happen ahead of >>>> time. >>>> For now, please add your country to >>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012 if >>>> you >>>> didn't do so yet. >>>> >>>> I am also happy to be able to say that four volunteers with a lot of >>>> 2011 >>>> experience have been found to form a core coordination team for 2012 - >>>> Maarten (Multichill), Elke (Elya), Tomasz (Odder) and myself will be >>>> trying to coordinate efforts. Of course the main workload will still lay >>>> with the national teams and also internationally any help will be >>>> appreciated. We will do extra our best to create good documentation and >>>> I >>>> hope that you all will ask your questions here and on the wiki in a >>>> timely >>>> manner - that way we can avoid last minute discussions, misunderstanding >>>> and other issues. Communication is always a challange, so I hope you >>>> will >>>> help with that. >>>> >>>> Also, the board of Wikimedia Nederland has indicated to be willing to be >>>> the budget holder for WLM 2012, and be the official organizer for the >>>> international contest - you shouldn't notice a lot of that as long as >>>> things go well, but we simply need an organization to be able to sign >>>> off >>>> on things (such as a world record attempt ;-) ). If there are no major >>>> objections, I'll ask the WMNL board to make that official soon. Also, >>>> we're trying to find the best way possible to ensure there is a good >>>> communication and task management on an international level. Last year >>>> we >>>> found in the evaluation that this was a bottle neck which caused several >>>> other things to go imperfect, so we're trying to find a way to give some >>>> professional support to the international coordination - that way we can >>>> make sure holes are being filled and there is a backbone present. I hope >>>> that will help make things run more smoothly that way. >>>> >>>> I hope that 2012 will be an even greater contest - seeing all the >>>> interested countries from over the world I am both enthusiastic and a >>>> little intimidated - I hope we can set off a wonderful international >>>> event. >>>> >>>> With kind regards, >>>> >>>> Lodewijk >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu > _______________________________________________ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.eu
