Of course :) Let me be clearer: there are loads of alternative projects that can be run. It's just with a different topic :) But for that, I suggest to first run national pilots, and then see what works good and scale that up again.
Lodewijk 2012/11/4 emijrp <[email protected]> > When we finish Wiki Loves Monuments, we can do Wiki Loves Earth, imitating > this project http://www.geograph.org.uk but worldwide. > > One image per km2 in the world (discarding oceans). Coverage is biased for > now > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geolocated_images_in_Wikimedia_Commons_2012-01-21.png > > > 2012/11/4 Lodewijk <[email protected]> > >> (changing the title to give it its own thread) >> >> I think this discussion would indeed be best on the feedback page. But I >> will respond to some of the points already here. >> >> First off: I personally do not think this will be an ever lasting event. >> I think that a country can only organize Wiki Loves Monuments 3 or 4 times >> in a row without exhausting enthusiasm about it. I actually have the >> feeling next year (2013) might very well be the last year that we organize >> it on an international level. But I hope someone will proof me wrong! >> >> I agree with Yaroslav that a real life organization would be a >> possibility. We don't need that though. Actually, I think it would be a >> worse situation than what we're in right now. It would cause a lot of >> bureaucracy (conflict of interest: I would be one of the people who would >> have to review the bylaws in the Affiliations committee). >> >> An ongoing project on Commons to coordinate heritage projects would >> perhaps be a good idea. Commons isn't exactly suitable for it as it also >> involves a lot of other things - but it is probably better than the >> alternatives. Outreachwiki would drive us too far from the content side of >> things etc. I don't think it would be a priority of myself, but I can >> definitely see the added value. I do not think it could or should replace >> current efforts, but it should be complementary. >> >> Some people suggested over time that Wiki Loves Monuments is a GLAM >> project. Everyone who knows me, knows that I'm no fan of acronyms and >> especially not this one. If you would use the alternative 'cultural >> heritage institutions' (or if you prefer acronyms: CHI) it indeed fits the >> definition well. However, at the same time it is quite different from all >> the other initiatives that are ongoing in this field by Wikimedia. >> >> Wiki Loves Monuments is mostly public facing and not institution-facing. >> We're focused on participation by individuals, and while the institutions >> that provide the infrastructure (the lists) are critical - they are >> primarily a tool to reach that goal. That is why I usually consider it more >> a seperate thing from traditional cultural heritage initiatives in >> Wikimedia - but it has many interfaces. Every national Wiki Loves Monuments >> competition has probably one or several Cultural Heritage collaborations. >> In the Netherlands we collaborate with the Museum association (prize >> sponsor), National heritage board (providing the lists), a >> monument/heritage association (networking partner, outreach and prize >> sponsor), the Architecture museum (prize sponsor), Open Monument Days >> (networking partner and outreach) etc. In other countries you will likely >> see similar collaborations especially in the second/third year develop. >> >> Anyway - I definitely cheer upon Poli's great idea to have a cleanup >> project. I have been doing a bunch of that myself recently on some >> countries (India, Canada, Argentina) and I think it could use some help. I >> think Maarten sent recently an email about it (now WLM is over, what's >> next). >> >> Yaroslav, Polimerek: would you like to volunteer to set up such portal on >> Commons? >> >> Best, >> Lodewijk >> >> 2012/11/4 Jane Darnell <[email protected]> >> >>> Well I wouldn't mind changing it to GLAMM - the extra M for monuments... >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > 2012/11/4 Yaroslav M. Blanter <[email protected]>: >>> > >>> >> Another option, which I personally find more attractive, is to create >>> a >>> >> permanently functioning meta-project, smth like Project Cultural >>> Heritage >>> >> (scope to be discussed). It could be based on Commons or on Meta (to >>> be >>> >> discussed, both options have advantages and disadvantages). This must >>> be a >>> >> meta-project, because it coordinates efforts of many different >>> projects: >>> >> Different language Wikipedias, Commons (with which the interaction was >>> >> sometimes not ideal), and potentially different languages in >>> Wikivoyage, may >>> >> be even Wikidata. Many components of this meta-project already exist >>> on >>> >> Commons and are supported by Maarten and other enthusiasts. >>> >> >>> > >>> > Well actually it would be a kind of repetition of GLAM / Outreach >>> > portal /wiki . I would rather suggest to better integrate WLM with >>> > GLAM inititative of which WLM is just one of many other projects. >>> > Quite successful - but not the only one. >>> > >>> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships >>> > >>> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM >>> > >>> > Many of these projects are about the same as WLM is - i.e. they upload >>> > many photographs and then, there is no-one to effectively use them in >>> > Wikipedias. Actually there is plenty of photographic/database content >>> > around which is not very effectively "consumed" by Wikipedia and other >>> > Wikimedia projects. The bottleneck is manpower of wiki-editors, not >>> > the number of free pictures or public domain governmental data. >>> > >>> > So, maybe it would be interesting to have a project "Commons heritage >>> > cleanup project" which might just screen how Common's content is >>> > organized in Commons and how effectively it is used in other Wikimedia >>> > projects. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz >>> > http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek >>> > http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ >>> > http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > > > -- > Emilio J. 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