2012/11/4 Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> > Yeah! But don't discard oceans: take photos down from a height of 100m...
Hahaha nice point. Award to the best underwater photography. ; ) > A good WLE project would also have denser and less dense photo regions; > to include things like "street view" of areas proportional to how much > traffic they get. Sure. I think that making a grid over an OSM map with geolocated Commons images (imitating that geograph.org.uk project) is almost trivial for a geotool developer (not my case). Perhaps someone in the Toolserver wants. > > On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 6:48 AM, emijrp <emi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> When we finish Wiki Loves Monuments, we can do Wiki Loves Earth, >> imitating this project http://www.geograph.org.uk but worldwide. >> >> One image per km2 in the world (discarding oceans). Coverage is biased >> for now >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Geolocated_images_in_Wikimedia_Commons_2012-01-21.png >> >> >> 2012/11/4 Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org> >> >>> (changing the title to give it its own thread) >>> >>> I think this discussion would indeed be best on the feedback page. But I >>> will respond to some of the points already here. >>> >>> First off: I personally do not think this will be an ever lasting event. >>> I think that a country can only organize Wiki Loves Monuments 3 or 4 times >>> in a row without exhausting enthusiasm about it. I actually have the >>> feeling next year (2013) might very well be the last year that we organize >>> it on an international level. But I hope someone will proof me wrong! >>> >>> I agree with Yaroslav that a real life organization would be a >>> possibility. We don't need that though. Actually, I think it would be a >>> worse situation than what we're in right now. It would cause a lot of >>> bureaucracy (conflict of interest: I would be one of the people who would >>> have to review the bylaws in the Affiliations committee). >>> >>> An ongoing project on Commons to coordinate heritage projects would >>> perhaps be a good idea. Commons isn't exactly suitable for it as it also >>> involves a lot of other things - but it is probably better than the >>> alternatives. Outreachwiki would drive us too far from the content side of >>> things etc. I don't think it would be a priority of myself, but I can >>> definitely see the added value. I do not think it could or should replace >>> current efforts, but it should be complementary. >>> >>> Some people suggested over time that Wiki Loves Monuments is a GLAM >>> project. Everyone who knows me, knows that I'm no fan of acronyms and >>> especially not this one. If you would use the alternative 'cultural >>> heritage institutions' (or if you prefer acronyms: CHI) it indeed fits the >>> definition well. However, at the same time it is quite different from all >>> the other initiatives that are ongoing in this field by Wikimedia. >>> >>> Wiki Loves Monuments is mostly public facing and not institution-facing. >>> We're focused on participation by individuals, and while the institutions >>> that provide the infrastructure (the lists) are critical - they are >>> primarily a tool to reach that goal. That is why I usually consider it more >>> a seperate thing from traditional cultural heritage initiatives in >>> Wikimedia - but it has many interfaces. Every national Wiki Loves Monuments >>> competition has probably one or several Cultural Heritage collaborations. >>> In the Netherlands we collaborate with the Museum association (prize >>> sponsor), National heritage board (providing the lists), a >>> monument/heritage association (networking partner, outreach and prize >>> sponsor), the Architecture museum (prize sponsor), Open Monument Days >>> (networking partner and outreach) etc. In other countries you will likely >>> see similar collaborations especially in the second/third year develop. >>> >>> Anyway - I definitely cheer upon Poli's great idea to have a cleanup >>> project. I have been doing a bunch of that myself recently on some >>> countries (India, Canada, Argentina) and I think it could use some help. I >>> think Maarten sent recently an email about it (now WLM is over, what's >>> next). >>> >>> Yaroslav, Polimerek: would you like to volunteer to set up such portal >>> on Commons? >>> >>> Best, >>> Lodewijk >>> >>> 2012/11/4 Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> >>> >>>> Well I wouldn't mind changing it to GLAMM - the extra M for monuments... >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <polime...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > 2012/11/4 Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>: >>>> > >>>> >> Another option, which I personally find more attractive, is to >>>> create a >>>> >> permanently functioning meta-project, smth like Project Cultural >>>> Heritage >>>> >> (scope to be discussed). It could be based on Commons or on Meta (to >>>> be >>>> >> discussed, both options have advantages and disadvantages). This >>>> must be a >>>> >> meta-project, because it coordinates efforts of many different >>>> projects: >>>> >> Different language Wikipedias, Commons (with which the interaction >>>> was >>>> >> sometimes not ideal), and potentially different languages in >>>> Wikivoyage, may >>>> >> be even Wikidata. Many components of this meta-project already exist >>>> on >>>> >> Commons and are supported by Maarten and other enthusiasts. >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > Well actually it would be a kind of repetition of GLAM / Outreach >>>> > portal /wiki . I would rather suggest to better integrate WLM with >>>> > GLAM inititative of which WLM is just one of many other projects. >>>> > Quite successful - but not the only one. >>>> > >>>> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships >>>> > >>>> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM >>>> > >>>> > Many of these projects are about the same as WLM is - i.e. they upload >>>> > many photographs and then, there is no-one to effectively use them in >>>> > Wikipedias. Actually there is plenty of photographic/database content >>>> > around which is not very effectively "consumed" by Wikipedia and other >>>> > Wikimedia projects. The bottleneck is manpower of wiki-editors, not >>>> > the number of free pictures or public domain governmental data. >>>> > >>>> > So, maybe it would be interesting to have a project "Commons heritage >>>> > cleanup project" which might just screen how Common's content is >>>> > organized in Commons and how effectively it is used in other Wikimedia >>>> > projects. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz >>>> > http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek >>>> > http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ >>>> > http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >>> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >>> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Emilio J. RodrÃguez-Posada >> http://LibreFind.org - The wiki search engine >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list >> WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments >> http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org >> > > > > -- > Samuel Klein @metasj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 > > > _______________________________________________ > Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list > WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments > http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org > -- Emilio J. RodrÃguez-Posada http://LibreFind.org - The wiki search engine
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