Hi Addis, great that you're willing to join this year!
Could you share some info on what is available as monument lists? Does the government provide/publish anything in that direction (or non-governmental organizations)? Usually governments publish these lists to prevent people to destroy them or because of tourism purposes. Creating an ID is only something after that, with some suggestions to making them unique proposed by others already. It is quite important that you do not make up your own monument lists though - they should follow some kind of external (usually governmental) definition. I understand from some quotes on the web there are in China both heritage sites/monuments recognized on a national level, and on a regional level. So I am assuming the lists should be there - the tricky part is to get them onto Wikipedia. If you can share what the lists look like, others might be able to help with that. Best, Lodewijk 2013/6/7 Roel Balingit <[email protected]> > Hi Addis, > > The Philippines doesn't officially have any monuments ID, what we did was > just obtain the list of officially recognized "monuments" from our national > cultural agency and we improvised our own ID system, I believe the same is > the case in Israel, where WMIL improvised their ID system for their > monuments. > > I hope that helps. > > Regards, > > Roel Balingit > WLM Philippines Coordinator > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]>wrote: > >> If you built your own code, the best way is to use an existing one which >> people can find, as a basis. At the end of that exiting codes of the >> town/etc you can add a dash/slash/etc and a number for each individual >> monument. >> >> Romaine >> >> --- On *Thu, 6/6/13, AddisWang <[email protected]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: AddisWang <[email protected]> >> >> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] News From China >> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < >> [email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 6:51 PM >> >> >> That's what we decide to do. We have many ways to make the id unique for >> whole country. The government even has unique id for every town, although >> not for monuments. >> >> Addis >> >> 在 2013-6-7，上午2:47，Romaine Wiki >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>> >> 写道： >> >> I would suggest concerning the id's is that the id's have to be unique >> for whole China. I think the Chinese government has assigned codes to at >> least provinces but I guess also to smaller areas. Depending on the >> situation choose for <province code>-<prefecture code>-... But it depends >> on in what area the code is unique, if the prefecture code of every >> prefecture is unique everywhere in China, use that as base, if it is only >> unique in the province, the prefecture code must be preceded by the code of >> the province. >> >> Romaine >> >> >> --- On *Thu, 6/6/13, rupert THURNER >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: rupert THURNER >> <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] News From China >> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" < >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 6:36 PM >> >> You mean something like this for the regions? >> http://www.statoids.com/ucn.html >> >> Rupert >> Am 06.06.2013 20:03 schrieb "AddisWang" <[email protected]>: >> >> Hi Sven >> >> I have to say your Chinese is great, especially you can really type it >> rather than only speaking. Let me know if any thing I can help. :) >> >> Actually we decide to use area code plus serial number as unique id if we >> can create our own. Not only the situation in China is little different >> with other countries, but even in the relative branches of government might >> have different id system. But still thanks for all your advice. >> >> Addis >> 在 2013-6-7，上午1:43，Sven Manguard <[email protected]> 写道： >> >> I personally don't think that the lack of "official" IDs should exclude a >> country from participation, but I'm not part of the international >> organizing team and can't speak for them. >> >> Some suggestions for creating an ID system yourself. I studied a bit of >> Chinese myself (我的汉语太不好, 我学习汉语了一年半了.) (I really hope that's correct) so I >> know better than to suggest "alphabetical order" However: >> >> If all of the items you want to include have known geographic >> coordinates, you can go from northwest to southeast by province and assign >> each spot a number (Yunnan 1, Yunnan 2, Yunnan 3, etc) >> >> If all of the items you want to include have Wikipedia articles (in any >> language), you don't even have to make up the numbers yourself, you could >> use the (essentially random) numbers that Wikidata uses (i.e. Yuanmingyuan >> is on Wikidata as https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q907894 so you could use >> 907894). >> >> Finally, you could try to do it based on age, but since many of the cites >> you're going to photograph are going to be from the Dynastic period, and >> dates can get a little fuzzy if you go back too far, that might not be a >> viable option. >> >> The downside to the first one is that if you add new items next year or >> the year after, things are going to be out of geographical order. The >> downside to the second one is the numbers are random and there are going to >> be large gaps in between most of them. >> >> These are just ideas though, you might have a better system in mind. >> >> Sven >> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, AddisWang <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi All >> >> I'm Addis Wang, the organizer of WLM in China this year. Just confirming >> that China will attend the competition this year. >> >> And there are some questions in the preparing if someone would like to >> help us. >> 1. Unique ID: It seems many countries have their official IDs excluding >> China, or at least is non-published. Since it might hard to cooperate with >> government in this country, can we crete our own id for monuments in China? >> And are there any requirements for the Unique ID? >> >> 2. List: The monuments list is needed. But I also found a page >> introducing database something like that, and seems complicated. 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