Hi Roel

Nice to get some info from Philippines, it's really helpful!

Addis Wang
在 2013-6-7,上午8:34,Roel Balingit <[email protected]> 写道:

> Hi Addis, 
> 
> The Philippines doesn't officially have any monuments ID, what we did was 
> just obtain the list of officially recognized "monuments" from our national 
> cultural agency and we improvised our own ID system, I believe the same is 
> the case in Israel, where WMIL improvised their ID system for their monuments.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Roel Balingit
> WLM Philippines Coordinator
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you built your own code, the best way is to use an existing one which 
> people can find, as a basis. At the end of that exiting codes of the town/etc 
> you can add a dash/slash/etc and a number for each individual monument. 
> 
> Romaine
> 
> --- On Thu, 6/6/13, AddisWang <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: AddisWang <[email protected]>
> 
> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] News From China
> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 6:51 PM
> 
> 
> That's what we decide to do. We have many ways to make the id unique for 
> whole country. The government even has unique id for every town, although not 
> for monuments.
> 
> Addis
> 
> 在 2013-6-7,上午2:47,Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> 写道:
> 
>> 
>> I would suggest concerning the id's is that the id's have to be unique for 
>> whole China. I think the Chinese government has assigned codes to at least 
>> provinces but I guess also to smaller areas. Depending on the situation 
>> choose for <province code>-<prefecture code>-... But it depends on in what 
>> area the code is unique, if the prefecture code of every prefecture is 
>> unique everywhere in China, use that as base, if it is only unique in the 
>> province, the prefecture code must be preceded by the code of the province. 
>> 
>> Romaine
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 6/6/13, rupert THURNER <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> From: rupert THURNER <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] News From China
>> To: "Wiki Loves Monuments Photograph Competition" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 6:36 PM
>> 
>> You mean something like this for the regions?
>> http://www.statoids.com/ucn.html
>> 
>> Rupert
>> 
>> Am 06.06.2013 20:03 schrieb "AddisWang" <[email protected]>:
>> Hi Sven
>> 
>> I have to say your Chinese is great, especially you can really type it 
>> rather than only speaking. Let me know if any thing I can help. :)
>> 
>> Actually we decide to use area code plus serial number as unique id if we 
>> can create our own. Not only the situation in China is little different with 
>> other countries, but even in the relative branches of government might have 
>> different id system. But still thanks for all your advice.
>> 
>> Addis
>> 在 2013-6-7,上午1:43,Sven Manguard <[email protected]> 写道:
>> 
>>> I personally don't think that the lack of "official" IDs should exclude a 
>>> country from participation, but I'm not part of the international 
>>> organizing team and can't speak for them.
>>> 
>>> Some suggestions for creating an ID system yourself. I studied a bit of 
>>> Chinese myself (我的汉语太不好, 我学习汉语了一年半了.) (I really hope that's correct) so I 
>>> know better than to suggest "alphabetical order" However:
>>> 
>>> If all of the items you want to include have known geographic coordinates, 
>>> you can go from northwest to southeast by province and assign each spot a 
>>> number (Yunnan 1, Yunnan 2, Yunnan 3, etc)
>>> 
>>> If all of the items you want to include have Wikipedia articles (in any 
>>> language), you don't even have to make up the numbers yourself, you could 
>>> use the (essentially random) numbers that Wikidata uses (i.e. Yuanmingyuan 
>>> is on Wikidata as https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q907894 so you could use 
>>> 907894).
>>> 
>>> Finally, you could try to do it based on age, but since many of the cites 
>>> you're going to photograph are going to be from the Dynastic period, and 
>>> dates can get a little fuzzy if you go back too far, that might not be a 
>>> viable option. 
>>> 
>>> The downside to the first one is that if you add new items next year or the 
>>> year after, things are going to be out of geographical order. The downside 
>>> to the second one is the numbers are random and there are going to be large 
>>> gaps in between most of them. 
>>> 
>>> These are just ideas though, you might have a better system in mind.
>>> 
>>> Sven
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:25 PM, AddisWang <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>> 
>>> I'm Addis Wang, the organizer of WLM in China this year. Just confirming 
>>> that China will attend the competition this year.
>>> 
>>> And there are some questions in the preparing if someone would like to help 
>>> us.
>>> 1. Unique ID: It seems many countries have their official IDs excluding 
>>> China, or at least is non-published. Since it might hard to cooperate with 
>>> government in this country, can we crete our own id for monuments in China? 
>>> And are there any requirements for the Unique ID?
>>> 
>>> 2. List: The monuments list is needed. But I also found a page introducing 
>>> database something like that, and seems complicated. So is this also 
>>> necessary or we only need to make some lists instead of database.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Addis Wang
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