Dear Lily,

No problem, I have just unsubscribed from this mailing list. It is the easiest solution for everyone.
You can always reach me off-list if you need.

Best,
Alexander


On 31.01.2017 07:02, Lily wrote:
Hi Alexander,

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 2:09 PM, Alexander Tsirlin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I think that I have raised this issue back in September, and at
    that time Mr. Lodewijk told me that Commons admins are special
    people who are not supposed to read and check anything. They
    simply delete an image if they want to do so, while the rest of
    the community should shut up and comply. I am not sure whether Mr.
    Lodewijk is going to reconsider his opinion now, but at least it
    is good to see that others find such behavior of Commons admins
    detrimental.


The language used above is not constructive. It, at the very least, has a tone of accusation. We need to be able to respect each other on this list and I ask you to help us with maintaining a constructive tone here (and everywhere else really).

Thank you.

Lily


    Sincerely,
    Alexander



    On 30.01.2017 17:28, Lodewijk wrote:
    Thanks!

    OK, so in this case the information was apparently removed
    
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:%EB%B4%84%EC%9D%B4_%EC%98%A8_%EC%88%98%EC%9B%90_%ED%99%94%EC%84%B1.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=230157217>by
    someone unrelated to the author - very odd - and deleted by an
    admin without further checking. I restored the image on the list
    of winners.

    The general question for best practices stands though -
    especially given the deletions that sometimes happen with regards
    to freedom of panorama. It would be nice if we could at least
    catch those earlier.

    Best,
    Lodewijk


    2017-01-30 17:17 GMT+01:00 Ciell Wikipedia
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

        I restored the image, the info still there in the history.

        Ciell

        2017-01-30 17:07 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>:

            People can also upload images manually. As I'm no longer
            an admin, I can't check the history of the file - and
            there was no page with deletion request created. The
            recent file I noticed was 봄이_온_수원_화성.jpg

            Best,
            Lodewijk

            2017-01-30 17:06 GMT+01:00 Alexander Tsirlin
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

                The WLM upload wizard adds the cc-by-sa-4.0 license
                automatically. Therefore, it is hard to imagine that
                a WLM photo had no license. It rather means that
                someone removed the license, and then someone else
                deleted the file. Was it the case here?

                Sincerely,
                Alexander


                On 30.01.2017 11:51, Lodewijk wrote:
                Hey all,

                As I noted that two of the national nominees have
                been deleted after their nomination, I was curious,
                are there any process improvements we could consider
                to avoid this to some extent?

                I would be curious to hear some best practices that
                countries have implemented to check for formalities.
                For example, I noted that one image from Korea was
                deleted apparently because the licese was missing.
                I'm guessing that this is something we could check
                for semi-automated. Are there countries that do this?

                I do some manual checking for the top-50
                internationally, just before we enter the final
                round. But it is very hard to scale that, and it
                eats up a lot of time. Any other ideas?

                Best,
                Lodewijk


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