hi ahmed.

thanks a lot for the tips. i'll keep those things in mind before eating. i
had a lot of problem in taipei trying to get vegetarian food. i dont think
i'll have the same problem in egypt. the pizza hut website does mention the
veg pizza. but i would prefer local food over pizza's if possible. :)

regards,
akash

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Ahmed Koraiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hey Akash,, I'm egyptian,, & i think i can give yo ua tip about vegetarian
> food
>
> usually in places like pizza hut and so, it'll be easy to find a
> vegetarian pizza or meal,, and u can just order it,, also usually most
> menus in god restaurants have an english version, with meal components
> written, so u can easily choose a meal
>
> also, traditional food like beans (fool), and falafel (taameya), and
> "koshary", they all consist of vegetarian components, and even without
> milk
>
> anyway, try not to eat salads out of the hotel or restaurants like
> mcdonalds, chillis, or on the run, etc...
>
> On The Run specifically is an American style fast food / snacks
> restaurant, you'll find it always next to / inside Mobil gaz stations
> (which are a sub of Exxonmobil, they're good, and with fair prices
> compared to foreign ones
>
> I think that's it for now..
>
> ah, and also, you can get good vegetables / fruits from big brand-name
> supermakets, like carrefour, spenneys (in cairo), metro, and u can
> chose the fruits and vegetables yourself
>
> hope you enjoy your stay at Egypt :)
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Akash Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi Aude.
> >
> > Thanks a lot for this mail. It will be extremely useful to anyone
> traveling
> > for Wikimania. I have one question - I am a vegetarian (no meat, no fish,
> no
> > eggs. Milk and milk products like curd, cheese, cream are ok). Are there
> > places in Cairo where I can get vegetarian food? Which traditional food
> > items of Egypt are vegetarian?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Akash
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:48 PM, Aude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have been in Egypt for over a month now, living in Cairo, as a
> student.
> >> Since arriving, I have traveled around the country, including Sinai,
> >> Alexandria, and will be in Luxor this weekend.  With people arriving
> soon
> >> for Wikimania, I'd like to take the opportunity to share advice and
> >> experiences as a female.
> >>
> >> Language -
> >>
> >> English is widely spoken in Egypt, and you will get by just fine if you
> >> don't know any words in Arabic.  Though it's good to know a few basics
> in
> >> Arabic: "shukran" - thank you; "aywa" - yes; "la" - no; "la shukran" -
> no
> >> thanks; "kwayis" - okay, good; "low samaht" - please, excuse me; "asif"
> -
> >> sorry (said by a male)/"asifa" (said by female); "hina kwayis" - here is
> >> good (useful in a taxi for saying where to stop); "mish fahim" - I don't
> >> understand; "betikkallim ingleezee" - do you speak English?
> >>
> >> Arriving-
> >>
> >> I found it unusual when arriving in Cairo, when we had to walk down
> stairs
> >> (out of a jumbo-size Boeing 767) and onto the tarmac.  We road a shuttle
> bus
> >> from there to the airport terminal.  Go ahead and exchange some money in
> the
> >> airport - best to do before going through customs.  Getting through
> customs
> >> and immigration was quick and easy for me, though I obtained my visa in
> >> advance.
> >>
> >> Safety -
> >>
> >> * I feel extremely safe here -- safer than I do back in the U.S.  Crime
> is
> >> not much of a problem at all.  Also, there is a strong police presence
> >> everywhere.  In Sinai and other places, there are checkpoints on the
> >> highways.  Most of the time, our tour groups have been completely on our
> >> own, but we had police accompany us a few times.
> >>
> >> * There is some harassment on the streets, but it's mainly words.
>  Knowing
> >> a few things in Arabic helps (e.g. "la shukran").  It helps to walk in
> >> groups, but I have walked around my neighborhood and other places on my
> own
> >> without problems.
> >>
> >> * For the most part, Egyptians are very welcoming, especially with
> tourism
> >> so important to the economy here.  I even have some friends here who are
> >> Jewish, who are getting along fine here.
> >>
> >> Getting around -
> >>
> >> * The biggest difference between the U.S. and Egypt (and elsewhere in
> the
> >> Middle East) is that traffic lights are pretty much lacking here.  In a
> few
> >> spots, there are traffic lights and/or police controlling traffic.  To
> cross
> >> the street, it's like playing the video game "Frogger", hurrying across
> the
> >> street when there is a small break in traffic.  Also, when riding in a
> taxi,
> >> the taxi driver may go quite fast and it takes getting use to the manner
> >> that they drive.
> >>
> >> What to wear -
> >>
> >> * I brought lightweight long/half-sleeve blouses, pants (linen or other
> >> lightweight material), and long skirts. At the last minute, I tossed a
> >> t-shirt in my luggage before I left the US.  I'm so very glad that I
> brought
> >> a t-shirt, and really wish I brought more short sleeve tops.  In the
> area of
> >> Cairo where I live (Zamalek), as well as around the university and many
> >> other areas, it is acceptable to wear short sleeves.  Same goes for
> >> Alexandria (Bibliotheca and other areas), which is located along the
> >> waterfront.
> >>
> >> * If you are going to see the pyramids in Giza or other such sites,
> >> anything goes for clothing.  It's not a problem to for women to wear a
> tank
> >> top/or t-shirt and shorts.  Such attire was also absolute acceptable
> when I
> >> was in Sharm el-Sheikh (in Sinai) and in similar locations.
> >>
> >> * For all places, sandals are completely acceptable for women.  You will
> >> even see women covered in hijabs who are wearing sandals.
> >>
> >> Shopping -
> >>
> >> * In Khan al-Khalili (Cairo) and other markets, the vendors are
> aggressive
> >> in wanting you to come into their shop and buy.  As well, the crowds at
> the
> >> markets can be overwhelming.
> >>
> >> * Bargaining - The prices that vendors tell you are way overpriced and
> you
> >> need to bargain.  For example, they may want 50 LE (khamseen) for a
> scarf,
> >> but you can get it for 10 LE (ashrun) or not more than 20 LE (ashreen).
>  To
> >> get out of bargaining and move along, you can say "hagee tania" which
> means
> >> "I'll come back another time".  Pretty much all the vendors will know
> some
> >> English, but a little bit of Arabic can help.
> >>
> >> * Khan al-Khalili is located in Islamic Cairo section of the city, which
> >> is more conservative.  It's good advice to dress more conservatively
> when
> >> going shopping.  To visit Al-Azhar Mosque, women should also wear a
> scarf.
> >>
> >> Despite having to put up with all this, it is definitely well worth it
> to
> >> visit Khan al-Khalili or other such places for shopping and souvenirs.
> >>
> >> Taking a taxi -
> >>
> >> * Prices - Taxi is a cheap and easy way to get around. It's one flat
> >> price, no matter how many people are riding in the taxi.   There are no
> >> meters.  You set the price, and it should be fair for the driver.  If
> you
> >> don't know what the fare should be for a particular destination, then
> you
> >> should ask someone (hotel concierge, staff at the dorms, at Bibliotheca,
> >> etc.) what's a reasonable price.  5 LE is a fair price for a ride from
> >> Bibliotheca to the downtown area in Alexandria, since it's not far.  I
> don't
> >> remember for sure exactly how far the dorms are, but I think 5-6 LE is
> >> reasonable, since I don't think the dorms are far.  I paid 10-12 LE to
> get
> >> from BA to the other end of the corniche in Alexandria.
> >>
> >> * Getting a taxi - If you are going really far (e.g. downtown Cairo to
> the
> >> Giza pyramids), then you should agree on a price before getting in a
> taxi.
> >> For most places (medium and shorter distances), do not discuss price
> before
> >> getting in.  Just say your destination and the driver should agree to
> take
> >> you.  A few times, before or once getting in, the driver has asked me
> about
> >> price.  If that happens, you can say your price.  If they don't agree,
> then
> >> find a different taxi.  Really, price should not come up.
> >>
> >> * Paying the driver - When you arrive, everyone MUST GET OUT before
> paying
> >> the driver.  Once everyone is out, then the person with the money should
> >> give the driver the money through the window.  Then everyone needs to
> walk
> >> away.  Most of the time, the driver doesn't argue with me/us, but
> sometimes
> >> they will make a fuss and demand more. The thing to do is keep walking
> >> away.  You gave them a fair, reasonable amount.  As a tourist, maybe you
> can
> >> give the taxi driver a tiny bit more to avoid an argument.
> >>
> >> * You do not need to tip the driver. Just give them the fare.
> >>
> >> Eating -
> >>
> >> I think most meals are provided at Wikimania, but when you are on your
> >> own...
> >>
> >> * Koshari (dish of macaroni, rice, lentils, and sauce) or tamiyya
> >> (falafel) make a good cheap meal.  A falafel sandwich can be had for 1-2
> LE
> >> each, and koshari meal w/drink for 7-10 LE.  Fast food places (e.g.
> >> McDonalds, Hardees, KFC, Pizza Hut) are available most everywhere,
> though
> >> these are not cheap meals by Egyptian standards.  A meal at McDonalds
> will
> >> cost ~30 LE ($5-6 USD) or more.  A meal at a good sit-down place
> (American
> >> style cafes, and other types of places) will cost a bit more, but I
> think
> >> the prices are comparable or slightly cheaper than in the US.
> >>
> >> * I been fine eating the food here, though felt slightly ill after
> eating
> >> salad in my university cafeteria.  It might have been the tomatoes that
> were
> >> not great.  I have avoided salad at other places, though did get salad
> at
> >> McDonalds which was fine.  Some caution about eating raw fruits and
> >> vegetables is a good idea. Cheap tamiyya and koshari have all been fine.
> >>
> >> * Alcohol is not difficult to find in Egypt.  Stella and Sakara are
> brands
> >> of beer that are available here.  There are plenty of bars and clubs
> around,
> >> as well a hotel bar is a definite place to find alcohol.
> >>
> >> * Restaurants will include a service charge directly on your bill, but
> you
> >> should also leave a tip.
> >>
> >> Bathrooms -
> >>
> >> * Western-style toilets are available pretty much most places, though
> some
> >> places (e.g. Islamic Cairo), you might find a squat-style toilet.  When
> I
> >> arrived at the airport in Cairo, I had some difficulty figuring out how
> to
> >> flush the toilet.  There is a knob on the toilet lid that you pull out
> and
> >> then push back in when finished with flushing.  Some toilets just have a
> >> button to push.
> >>
> >> * It's a good idea to carry some toilet paper or tissue with you.
>  Toilet
> >> paper is usually available most places I have been, but not always. In
> some
> >> places, there is a staff person manning the bathrooms, who will give you
> >> toilet paper for bashish (tip).  In some places (e.g. rest houses/stops
> on
> >> the highway), you will need to pay 1 LE or another amount to use the
> >> bathroom facilities.  In places like McDonalds and other restaurants, as
> >> well as hotels, and certainly places like Bibliotheca, you don't pay to
> use
> >> the bathroom and they have toilet paper.
> >>
> >> Sightseeing -
> >>
> >> I have been to the Pyramids in Giza, Sakkara, to Alexandria, to Sinai
> (St.
> >> Katherine's and Sharm el-Sheikh) and will be in Luxor this weekend. I
> don't
> >> have a lot of spare time to organize these better, but I have quite a
> few
> >> pictures now posted on Flickr of Alexandria and other places in Egypt:
> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kmf164/  Let me know if you want
> sightseeing
> >> suggestions or advice.
> >>
> >> Questions -
> >>
> >> http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Aude - I have posted all
> this
> >> on my Wikimania user page.  Please feel free to ask questions.  I'm sure
> I
> >> missed mentioning some things.
> >>
> >> -Aude
> >>
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