Aside from it being a bit long, I have never seen any problem with it. Thanks for the background info, it is always helpful.
Lodewijk 2013/7/19 Teemeah . <[email protected]> > I personally like the tagline and look forward to Wikimania. > > Timea > > > 2013/7/19 Andrew Lih <[email protected]> > >> Thanks for the great explanation Deryck. Even though I'm familiar with HK >> and Wikimania, I came out much more enlightened about this than before on >> the choice of the tagline and the capturing of the Wikimedia internal >> dynamics. >> >> Also, you did a great job in one sentence to describe "Chinese" as a more >> complex and nuanced label. Kudos. >> >> >> >> -Andrew Lih >> Associate professor of journalism >> USC Annenberg School of Communication and Journalism >> Email: [email protected] >> WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com >> BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http:/www.wikipediarevolution.com >> PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Deryck Chan <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Last week, it emerged to the surprise of Wikimania 2013's organizing >>> committee in Hong Kong that the tagline of this year's Wikimania, "Of one >>> mind in pursuit of our dream, all discord set aside" has caused some >>> concern. Those so concerned viewed it as mockery of the FDC process which >>> apparently left WMHK with no funding to continue running itself after >>> Wikimania. >>> >>> Many of you who attended Wikimania 2012 will remember that the tagline >>> was announced at the closing ceremony of Wikimania 2012. Tom Morris even >>> joked on Twitter that "that's the new ArbCom motto".[1] We couldn't foresee >>> the future - we simply know that Wikimedia is full of imperfect people like >>> us so conflicts are abundant. However, given the concern expressed, and the >>> fact that the tagline will appear on the Wikimania 2013 T-shirts, I thought >>> I should explain the tagline fully. >>> >>> The quoted song, Under the Lion Rock, is a soap opera theme tune from >>> the 1980s. This song is often hailed as the unofficial national anthem of >>> Hong Kong. (Lion Rock is an iconic natural rock atop the hilly ridge which >>> divides Kowloon and the New Territories, so "under the Lion Rock" is a >>> metonym for all of Hong Kong.) For attendees from Hong Kong, these lyrics >>> show that this Wikimania embraces Hong Kong fully, and Wikimedians from >>> Hong Kong are just like everyone else. >>> >>> For those who have been involved with Wikimedia for a long time, it is >>> obvious that there is discord all over the place. Wikimania is often seen >>> as the "cream" of Wikimedia, the "bright side" of everything. By picking >>> these lines for our slogan, we want to make the point (which hasn't ever >>> been as prominent in any past Wikimania) that we don't shy away from >>> conflicts. The "conflict" theme runs right through the proposed agenda in >>> our bid; it was even suggested that we invite a banned editor from Hong >>> Kong as keynote speaker. (That fell through. He never felt compelled enough >>> to show up in person.) The lyrics affirm that it is our shared Wikimedia >>> vision which brings us together, in a way that urges us to live with our >>> differences. >>> >>> The outside world often thinks of Wikipedians as a homogenous bunch, >>> slaving away behind computers like robots. We want to say that we actually >>> disagree on lots of things, in ways that similar disputes would roll out in >>> real life. Hong Kong editors tend to be a bit proud of ourselves and quite >>> sceptic towards the current Chinese regime, such that we would go to any >>> length to fight against patriotic mainland Chinese editors and >>> panda-licking American editors. Although we would quickly switch sides and >>> stand with Chinese patriots when it comes to the Diaoyu/Senkaku dispute, >>> and the adamant insistence that "China"!="PRC" and "Taiwan"!="ROC". And >>> we're (surprisingly to most foreigners) rather Falun Gong sceptic too. >>> >>> If people (Wikipediocracy?) insist on thinking that the theme decided a >>> year ago is a dig at the recent FDC furore, then they can put the same into >>> the mouth of any slogan we come up with. What we want to show with these >>> lyrics is that we are connected to all of Hong Kong at heart, and we don't >>> want to shy away from the differences between us in Wikimedia. >>> >>> Full quotation of the chorus of "Under the Lion Rock", as translated by >>> the Hong Kong Government Budget 2002/03:[2] >>> *Of one mind in pursuit of our dream >>> All discord set aside >>> With one heart on the same bright quest >>> Fearless and valiant inside >>> >>> Hand in hand to the ends of the earth >>> Rough terrain no respite >>> Side by side we overcome ills >>> As the Hong Kong story we write.* >>> >>> [1] http://eventifier.co/event/wikimania2012/deryckchan >>> [2] http://www.budget.gov.hk/2002/eframe2.htm >>> >>> With Wiki-Love, >>> Deryck >>> Global Engagement Coordinator, Wikimania 2013 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >
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