Clever workaround!

-Andrew Lih
Associate professor of journalism, American University
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BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com
PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Deryck Chan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Actually, there's a "Download MP4" button when I'm logged in as Wikimedia
> Hong Kong (channel owner). So if you want to transfer the videos, email me
> off-list and I'll add you to the admin list of the WMHK YouTube channel.
> Then everybody including the YouTube TOS will be happy.
>  On 22 Jan 2014 19:58, "Andrew Lih" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 22 January 2014 01:49, Andrew Lih <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, that's related to copyright and permissions of the material, but
>>>> what about that first sentence:
>>>>
>>>> *You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or
>>>> similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content*
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Jan pointed out that youtube2mediawiki.py doesn't actually "download"
>>> the video, so I think we're fine with the provisions of licensor's
>>> permission in the sentence below.
>>>
>>
>> Well not exactly -- just because the downloading is modularized into a
>> Python script doesn't mean it's not downloading. :) The exact code actually
>> does download:
>>
>> #download video and save to file.
>>         u = self.opener.open(url)
>>         f = open(filename, 'w')
>>         data = True
>>         while data:
>>             data = u.read(4096)
>>             f.write(data)
>>         f.close()
>>         u.close()
>>         return True
>>
>>
>>> Commons is ultra-conservative with copyright, but doesn't really care
>>> about any other terms and conditions imposed by anyone else. So I think
>>> it's fine to transfer the videos from YouTube to Commons - no copyright is
>>> violated and the ambiguity in the YouTube TOS works in our favour.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I do believe there's not much to worry about in this particular
>> situation. Just be aware that we're running afoul of the TOS, even if
>> Google is lax on enforcement. A violation of TOS could be used to go after
>> users in other less clear-cut cases.
>>
>> -Andrew
>>
>>
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