> > Ed: Yes, my suggestion was more or less what Harry described, a lot more > informal than the Committee and able to answer more practical questions. >
The committee is mostly just the previous organisers. Any way you cut it, it'll still be the same people. The committee can and does answer practical questions, but it seems the kind of people who step up to do Wikimanias don't tend to need it that much. I expect the main issue is variable levels of commitment/ownership in the organising team. *Edward Saperia* Founder Newspeak House <http://www.nwspk.com/> email <[email protected]> • facebook <http://www.facebook.com/edsaperia> • twitter <http://www.twitter.com/edsaperia> • 07796955572 133-135 Bethnal Green Road, E2 7DG > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Chris Keating <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Thanks Ellie! Sounds like a very productive step! >> >> Chris >> >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 12:26 AM, Ellie Young <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Chris Keating < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Well this thread turned out bigger (and much more productive) than I >>>> expected! >>>> >>> >>> >>>> To my mind, Wikimania continuing to happen every year is a minor >>>> miracle, and one that's only possible with the hard work and dedication of >>>> lots of people. >>>> >>>> However, it's a miracle that isn't without its problems. The most >>>> obvious problem to my mind is that there is a very mixed quality of actual >>>> conference programme, and without clear objectives (or at least not >>>> consistent objectives). The Wikimedia Conference, by contrast, has a much >>>> clearer alignment of the programme with a set of goals, and work happens to >>>> follow up before and after the conference. >>>> >>>> The second problem is that the responsibilities for governance and >>>> management of the conference are really very unclear. We have the Wikimania >>>> Committee, we have the local team (and in some cases a local chapter who >>>> may or may not be working closely with the bid team), we have the Programme >>>> Committee and we have the WMF. (Actually we have the WMF at least twice, as >>>> the priorities of the WMF team involved in organising the conference don't >>>> always seem to align with those of the rest of the organisation). >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> In my view, the most useful thing for all these groups to do is to work >>>> out who is actually responsible for what, and document it, in public. >>>> >>> >>> T >>> his is an excellent suggestion. It is not unclear to me how things >>> work having been involved with coordination among the various 'players' for >>> the past few years. The Handbook is out of date as well. So I will take >>> an action item to start revising this and making it clearer to everyone >>> about the structure, organization, etc for the community at large. This >>> is especially necessary as we move forward with next steps for 2018 in the >>> coming months (working on this with WMF and Committee so we are all in >>> alignment about the future, and we can better enable prospective future >>> hosts/organizers to engage with us.) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ellie Young >>> Events Manager >>> Wikimedia Foundation >>> [email protected] >>> c. 510 701 8649 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> > > > -- > "Imagina un mundo en donde cada persona del planeta pueda tener acceso > libre a la suma total de todo el conocimiento humano. Eso es lo que estamos > haciendo."—Jimmy Wales <https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales>. > > Socio de Wikimedia México > <https://mx.wikimedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A1gina_principal>. > > > > [image: Andrés C y C on about.me] > > Andrés Cruz y Corro > about.me/andycyca > <http://about.me/andycyca> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >
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