Thanks for the update!

Jason


On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, I sent an email to Affcom a few days ago. I was told that Affcom is
> working on questions for us which they will place on the Meta talk page,
> and that we can expect to hear from them possibly as soon as today.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Jason Moore <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Per
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Cascadia_Wikimedians&curid=1172409&diff=8870154&oldid=8864386,
>> I think it is time we get the ball rolling.
>>
>> Pine, have you submitted an email to AffCom, or are you willing to do
>> that now?
>>
>> My hope is that much of the application process is conducted on
>> Meta-Wiki, both for transparency purposes and because supporters come from
>> different cities and different WikiProjects, and it would be nice for all
>> to have the opportunity to participate in the discussion.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 6:59 AM, Jason Moore <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That sounds great, Pine!
>>>
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:54 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK thanks.
>>>>
>>>> We just had another person sign up. Let's wait until the end of the
>>>> Seattle meetup on June 12 before formalizing the end of the signing period
>>>> in case we get any more recruits at the in-person meeting. In the meantime
>>>> we can start working on the user group documents so they're ready to go as
>>>> soon as possible. I can get in touch with AffCom if there are no
>>>> objections. LMK.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:17:06 -0400
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta, and organizing
>>>> ourselves
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> CC: [email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I am not signing.
>>>>
>>>> yours,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:02 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bluerasberry,
>>>>
>>>> Just checking to make sure that you're not planning to sign.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:00:27 -0700
>>>>
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta, and organizing
>>>> ourselves
>>>>
>>>> My understanding is that Lane supports the group, but does not intend
>>>> to serve as a founding member of the user group.
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:58 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would check with Bluerasberry.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I am in the process of converting to a new webmail provider
>>>> because Hotmail has problems with threaded email discussions on lists. Any
>>>> recommendations for new providers other than Gmail? Please contact me
>>>> off-list.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:54:20 -0700
>>>>
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta, and organizing
>>>> ourselves
>>>>
>>>> Please see:
>>>>
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cascadia_Wikimedians#Sign_on_to_be_a_Founding_Member_of_Cascadia_Wikimedians
>>>>
>>>> Are we ready to move forward?
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've joined the channel. What's your IRC nick?
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:13:29 -0400
>>>>
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta, and organizing
>>>> ourselves
>>>>
>>>> Check #wikimedia-us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi, it looks like this is happening soon. I can participate by Skype,
>>>> Google Hangout or IRC if you have a wifi connection.
>>>>
>>>> Pine
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 09:34:04 -0400
>>>>
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta, and organizing
>>>> ourselves
>>>>
>>>> Oops, I forgot to include the link, just in case!
>>>>
>>>> http://wikiconferenceusa.org/wiki/Cascadia_Meetup
>>>>
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jason Moore <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Bumping this thread to confirm the Cascadia Meetup this afternoon
>>>> (4-5:30pm) in Room W300 at WikiConference USA. We will be discussing the
>>>> possibility of user group status. Pine, Mako, I understand that the two of
>>>> you are committed to signing on as supporters of the Cascadian Wikimedians
>>>> User Group. I, too, am willing to sign on, and there are a few people here
>>>> at the conference from Portland, Washington State and British Columbia,
>>>> some of whom may also be interested. We will see what happens this
>>>> afternoon, but perhaps we can at least come up with a solid plan to obtain
>>>> user group status ASAP.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Jason
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Kirill Lokshin <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Lane Rasberry <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hello,
>>>>
>>>> The easiest way to incorporate in Washington is to get the minimum
>>>> number of people, I think 5, and then just fill out the online form.
>>>>
>>>> To get 501(c)(3) if an organization has been registered for three years
>>>> without failing the yearly report or having members go wild, then the bar
>>>> to get non-profit status is greatly lowered.
>>>>
>>>> If I were to propose a route going forward, it would be this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. As soon as three supporters are identified, send an email
>>>>    requesting usergroup status. There is really no review process for this 
>>>> and
>>>>    it is just something that is granted on request. The group's history far
>>>>    exceeds expectations of applicants.
>>>>
>>>> I should point out that this isn't really the case.  While the review
>>>> process for user groups is simpler and shorter than the review process for
>>>> chapters, there *is* a review.  Depending on whether there will be bylaws
>>>> that need to be reviewed (which may be the case if the user group is going
>>>> to incorporate), I would expect the review to take anywhere from a few
>>>> weeks to a month or two.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. If five supporters can be identified to sign on to incorporate,
>>>>    apply as a non-profit organization and operate indefinitely with no 
>>>> budget
>>>>    and few projects. Have the work of the chapter be endorsement of
>>>>    community-organized events, and possibly oversight of coffee funding 
>>>> which
>>>>    is accepted not by the chapter but by an individual organizer if funds 
>>>> are
>>>>    ever needed at all.
>>>>
>>>> One other option that you may want to consider is that of fiscal
>>>> sponsorship through another Wikimedia affiliate, whether or not you
>>>> incorporate.  For example, Wikimedia DC recently set up a fiscal
>>>> sponsorship arrangement with the New England Wikimedians user group, in
>>>> which WMDC will hold the user group's funds in one of our bank accounts and
>>>> take care of disbursements, expense reimbursement, and financial
>>>> bookkeeping and reporting for the user group.  If something along these
>>>> lines is of interest, I'm certain WMDC would be happy to assist Cascadia as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    1. If five people either want non-profit status and wish to pay
>>>>    $2500 or seek pro bono filing, then they could do that. Otherwise if the
>>>>    five supporters just wait three years after filing the price and 
>>>> complexity
>>>>    goes way down and they could do the paperwork themselves. Otherwise, the
>>>>    organization could persist indefinitely without nonprofit status and so
>>>>    long as it never touched money there would be no concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Is there actually a change at the three-year mark with regard to the
>>>> federal 501(c)(3) filing, or is this something specific to non-profits in
>>>> Washington?  The IRS has done away with the preliminary/final
>>>> determinations for public charity status; and, as far as I was aware, that
>>>> was the only real difference for organizations filing earlier or later.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kirill
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Secretary | Wikimedia District of Columbia
>>>> http://wikimediadc.org | @wikimediadc
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