My understanding is that Lane supports the group, but does not intend to
serve as a founding member of the user group.

Jason


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:58 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would check with Bluerasberry.
>
> By the way, I am in the process of converting to a new webmail provider
> because Hotmail has problems with threaded email discussions on lists. Any
> recommendations for new providers other than Gmail? Please contact me
> off-list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pine
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:54:20 -0700
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta, and organizing
> ourselves
>
> Please see:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cascadia_Wikimedians#Sign_on_to_be_a_Founding_Member_of_Cascadia_Wikimedians
>
> Are we ready to move forward?
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I've joined the channel. What's your IRC nick?
>
> Pine
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:13:29 -0400
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta, and organizing
> ourselves
>
> Check #wikimedia-us
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi, it looks like this is happening soon. I can participate by Skype,
> Google Hangout or IRC if you have a wifi connection.
>
> Pine
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 09:34:04 -0400
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta, and organizing
> ourselves
>
> Oops, I forgot to include the link, just in case!
>
> http://wikiconferenceusa.org/wiki/Cascadia_Meetup
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jason Moore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Bumping this thread to confirm the Cascadia Meetup this afternoon
> (4-5:30pm) in Room W300 at WikiConference USA. We will be discussing the
> possibility of user group status. Pine, Mako, I understand that the two of
> you are committed to signing on as supporters of the Cascadian Wikimedians
> User Group. I, too, am willing to sign on, and there are a few people here
> at the conference from Portland, Washington State and British Columbia,
> some of whom may also be interested. We will see what happens this
> afternoon, but perhaps we can at least come up with a solid plan to obtain
> user group status ASAP.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Kirill Lokshin <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Lane Rasberry <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>  Hello,
>
> The easiest way to incorporate in Washington is to get the minimum number
> of people, I think 5, and then just fill out the online form.
>
> To get 501(c)(3) if an organization has been registered for three years
> without failing the yearly report or having members go wild, then the bar
> to get non-profit status is greatly lowered.
>
> If I were to propose a route going forward, it would be this:
>
>
>    1. As soon as three supporters are identified, send an email
>    requesting usergroup status. There is really no review process for this and
>    it is just something that is granted on request. The group's history far
>    exceeds expectations of applicants.
>
> I should point out that this isn't really the case.  While the review
> process for user groups is simpler and shorter than the review process for
> chapters, there *is* a review.  Depending on whether there will be bylaws
> that need to be reviewed (which may be the case if the user group is going
> to incorporate), I would expect the review to take anywhere from a few
> weeks to a month or two.
>
>
>
>    1. If five supporters can be identified to sign on to incorporate,
>    apply as a non-profit organization and operate indefinitely with no budget
>    and few projects. Have the work of the chapter be endorsement of
>    community-organized events, and possibly oversight of coffee funding which
>    is accepted not by the chapter but by an individual organizer if funds are
>    ever needed at all.
>
> One other option that you may want to consider is that of fiscal
> sponsorship through another Wikimedia affiliate, whether or not you
> incorporate.  For example, Wikimedia DC recently set up a fiscal
> sponsorship arrangement with the New England Wikimedians user group, in
> which WMDC will hold the user group's funds in one of our bank accounts and
> take care of disbursements, expense reimbursement, and financial
> bookkeeping and reporting for the user group.  If something along these
> lines is of interest, I'm certain WMDC would be happy to assist Cascadia as
> well.
>
>
>    1. If five people either want non-profit status and wish to pay $2500
>    or seek pro bono filing, then they could do that. Otherwise if the five
>    supporters just wait three years after filing the price and complexity goes
>    way down and they could do the paperwork themselves. Otherwise, the
>    organization could persist indefinitely without nonprofit status and so
>    long as it never touched money there would be no concerns.
>
> Is there actually a change at the three-year mark with regard to the
> federal 501(c)(3) filing, or is this something specific to non-profits in
> Washington?  The IRS has done away with the preliminary/final
> determinations for public charity status; and, as far as I was aware, that
> was the only real difference for organizations filing earlier or later.
>
> Cheers,
> Kirill
>
> --
> Kirill Lokshin
> Secretary | Wikimedia District of Columbia
> http://wikimediadc.org | @wikimediadc
>
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