I would check with Bluerasberry.

By the way, I am in the process of converting to a new webmail provider because 
Hotmail has problems with threaded email discussions on lists. Any 
recommendations for new providers other than Gmail? Please contact me off-list.

Thanks,

Pine

Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:54:20 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta,        and organizing 
ourselves

Please 
see:https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cascadia_Wikimedians#Sign_on_to_be_a_Founding_Member_of_Cascadia_Wikimedians


Are we ready to move forward?
Jason

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 1:29 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]> wrote:




I've joined the channel. What's your IRC nick?

Pine

Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 16:13:29 -0400
From: [email protected]

To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta,        and organizing 
ourselves


Check #wikimedia-us

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM, ENWP Pine <[email protected]> wrote:




Hi, it looks like this is happening soon. I can participate by Skype, Google 
Hangout or IRC if you have a wifi connection.

Pine

Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 09:34:04 -0400

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]


Subject: Re: [Wikimedia Cascadia] Cascadia page on Meta,        and organizing 
ourselves

Oops, I forgot to include the link, just in case!
http://wikiconferenceusa.org/wiki/Cascadia_Meetup




Jason

On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Jason Moore <[email protected]> wrote:

Bumping this thread to confirm the Cascadia Meetup this afternoon (4-5:30pm) in 
Room W300 at WikiConference USA. We will be discussing the possibility of user 
group status. Pine, Mako, I understand that the two of you are committed to 
signing on as supporters of the Cascadian Wikimedians User Group. I, too, am 
willing to sign on, and there are a few people here at the conference from 
Portland, Washington State and British Columbia, some of whom may also be 
interested. We will see what happens this afternoon, but perhaps we can at 
least come up with a solid plan to obtain user group status ASAP. 




Thanks,Jason

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Kirill Lokshin <[email protected]> 
wrote:




On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Lane Rasberry <[email protected]> wrote:







Hello,
The easiest way to incorporate in Washington is to get the minimum number of 
people, I think 5, and then just fill out the online form.
To get 501(c)(3) if an organization has been registered for three years without 
failing the yearly report or having members go wild, then the bar to get 
non-profit status is greatly lowered.







If I were to propose a route going forward, it would be this:
As soon as three supporters are identified, send an email requesting usergroup 
status. There is really no review process for this and it is just something 
that is granted on request. The group's history far exceeds expectations of 
applicants.




I should point out that this isn't really the case.  While the review process 
for user groups is simpler and shorter than the review process for chapters, 
there *is* a review.  Depending on whether there will be bylaws that need to be 
reviewed (which may be the case if the user group is going to incorporate), I 
would expect the review to take anywhere from a few weeks to a month or two.




 

If five supporters can be identified to sign on to incorporate, apply as a 
non-profit organization and operate indefinitely with no budget and few 
projects. Have the work of the chapter be endorsement of community-organized 
events, and possibly oversight of coffee funding which is accepted not by the 
chapter but by an individual organizer if funds are ever needed at all.




One other option that you may want to consider is that of fiscal sponsorship 
through another Wikimedia affiliate, whether or not you incorporate.  For 
example, Wikimedia DC recently set up a fiscal sponsorship arrangement with the 
New England Wikimedians user group, in which WMDC will hold the user group's 
funds in one of our bank accounts and take care of disbursements, expense 
reimbursement, and financial bookkeeping and reporting for the user group.  If 
something along these lines is of interest, I'm certain WMDC would be happy to 
assist Cascadia as well.







If five people either want non-profit status and wish to pay $2500 or seek pro 
bono filing, then they could do that. Otherwise if the five supporters just 
wait three years after filing the price and complexity goes way down and they 
could do the paperwork themselves. Otherwise, the organization could persist 
indefinitely without nonprofit status and so long as it never touched money 
there would be no concerns.




Is there actually a change at the three-year mark with regard to the federal 
501(c)(3) filing, or is this something specific to non-profits in Washington?  
The IRS has done away with the preliminary/final determinations for public 
charity status; and, as far as I was aware, that was the only real difference 
for organizations filing earlier or later.






Cheers,Kirill
--Kirill Lokshin




Secretary | Wikimedia District of Columbia




http://wikimediadc.org | @wikimediadc






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