Pine, The way that you are proposing a separation between Cascadia's board/governance and staff/management is exactly as I think is best. I support that model entirely.
yours, On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 8:49 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lane, > > Actually, there are lots of ways that an organization can structure its > officers. In Washington, corporations including charities can have only a > single officer; for example, the Catholic Archdiocese of Seattle is a > "corporation sole" with a single officer. However, in most charities this > degree of centralization would be inadvisable. In Washington, if there is > more than one officer, there is a requirement that the president and the > secretary be different people. I believe that there are no requirements to > have vice presidents or treasurers, although many organizations do so when > there are enough trustworthy people involved to allow for multiple > officers, especially if the workload is so great that the president and > secretary can't handle everything by themselves. > > I particularly am hoping in Cascadia's case to segregate management from > governance. It is good practice for the Board to involve itself in > big-picture decisions, and to leave the day to day management of the > organization to the president. The president does not need to be a board > member, for example Lila is not a member of WMF's board. The chair leads > the board, mostly in a facilitating role; the president is the manager of > the organization and he/she reports to the board. The president *can* be a > member of the board, but they don't *need* to be, and since I've already > proposed paying for some management staff time, it makes sense to me to > have the president (who might or might not also be the treasurer) be > someone who is separate from, and reports to, the board. > > I hope that makes sense. If not, we can talk more tonight. > > Pine > > *This is an Encyclopedia* <https://www.wikipedia.org/> > > > > > > > *One gateway to the wide garden of knowledge, where lies The deep rock of > our past, in which we must delve The well of our future,The clear water we > must leave untainted for those who come after us,The fertile earth, in > which truth may grow in bright places, tended by many hands,And the broad > fall of sunshine, warming our first steps toward knowing how much we do not > know.* > > *—Catherine Munro* > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 5:31 AM, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> > wrote: > >> Peaceray, >> >> What titles are being imagined here? Confirm if I am correct: >> >> The organization has a board. The board has five members. Titles required >> in Washington are president, vice president, secretary, and treasurer. Any >> other titles are optional. All people on the board are officers in addition >> to any other titles they have. The board serves the organization's >> membership and staff, and people in those groups can have any titles they >> choose, like "(non-board) president", "director", "program manager", >> "volunteer", or anything else. >> >> I am having trouble understanding "*This might be useful, for example, >> if the President and Treasurer are not board members and the Board wishes >> to have them serve on the Audit Committee"* because the board has to >> have a president and treasurer, right? >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Raymond Leonard < >> raymond.f.leonard...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Lane / bluerasberry, >>> >>> Some of the divergence was due to State of Washington law. Since I know >>> that Pine has been very busy with family matters, I will take the liberty >>> of sharing what Pine wrote to me about the changes that he made: >>> >>> *** >>> *I did some online research and made some changes based on that >>> research. In particular:* >>> >>> >>> 1. *Washington law sets maximum notice of member meetings at 50 >>> days.* >>> 2. *Per Washington law, the Corporation "Shall not loan money or >>> credit to its officers or directors".* >>> 3. *I made the section on background checks more extensive, >>> including spelling out how background checks for the President and >>> Treasurer should be performed.* >>> 4. *Minors should not serve as voting Board members, but they may >>> helpfully contribute to advisory boards and advisory committees. I made >>> that explicit in a few places, and I removed the exception that allowed >>> the >>> Secretary to be a minor.* >>> 5. *I added a provision allowing for two non-Board members to be >>> appointed to the Audit Committee. This might be useful, for example, if >>> the >>> President and Treasurer are not board members and the Board wishes to >>> have >>> them serve on the Audit Committee. This provision would also allow for >>> people to serve on the Audit Committee who are not interested in serving >>> on >>> the full Board.* >>> >>> *** >>> >>> Also, if I recollect our subsequent verbal discussion correctly, other >>> changes may have been modeled after other Washington non-profits, & there >>> were some changes to give the board a bit more powerful & the officers a >>> little bit less powerful. That was one reason that there is a Vice-Chairman >>> of the Board but not a Vice-President. >>> >>> Yours, >>> Peaceray >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 4:12 AM, Lane Rasberry <l...@bluerasberry.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> These proposed by-laws are derived from Wikimedia DC bylaws. I read >>>> those DC bylaws in the past plus they have been used for some years. I will >>>> ask where and how these bylaws diverge from those. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sage, >>>>> >>>>> The board members are noted in the agenda: >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle#Monthly_meeting_January_13.2C_2015.2C_6pm_to_10pm >>>>> >>>>> Sure, let's have a discussion about strategic goals. Would you like >>>>> to add that to the agenda, perhaps above the bylaws agenda item? >>>>> >>>>> Pine >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list >>>>> Wikimedia-Cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lane Rasberry >>>> user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia >>>> 206.801.0814 >>>> l...@bluerasberry.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list >>>> Wikimedia-Cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list >>> Wikimedia-Cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Lane Rasberry >> user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia >> 206.801.0814 >> l...@bluerasberry.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list >> Wikimedia-Cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list > Wikimedia-Cascadia@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia > > -- Lane Rasberry user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia 206.801.0814 l...@bluerasberry.com
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