On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Cristian Consonni <[email protected]>wrote:
> 2012/7/24 <[email protected]>: > > On Jul 24, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Cristian Consonni <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> 2012/7/24 <[email protected]>: > >>> [...] So I definitely believe what it.WM wants to do, to connect > people with local events, has real value. And that it has value for the > individual people just as much as for it.WM. > >> > >> strong +1. > >> > >>> The main question is whether the benefit from being able to connect > people with local events is worth the risk of collecting more personalized > of their data than we are accustomed to handling. > >> > >> I could be wrong but I don't think we would "handle more data" than > >> what we are doing now. We are not going to use that data and as far as > >> I know that data "dies" in the moment the system has output the > >> message. > > > > Maybe this is the area that needs more study. And I am probably the > wrong person to try and even formulate technical questions, but is there a > way to make use of this data without storing it? Without even knowing who > recieved what personalized messages, unless, of course,they choose to > respond? > > I will forward these questions to wikitech-l. > > > There is still the "creep" factor, in that readers of the messages will > not necessarily know that it was all handled blindly. However it should > technically preserve the reader's privacy, if no person nor computer can > recall what messages any person was presented with. And if an FAQ is > well-linked, anyone who under the misperception that it was handled > invasively can learn how serious we are about the subject. > > A FAQ page would be useful, then I think we could decide that, for example: > * the geonotice can be centered only on big cities (e.g. "Chef-lieus") > * Messages should not make use of the geolocalization information > itself, but only static test (i.e. NO "Hey you living in X, there a > meetup in Milan" - YES for "There's meetup in Milan") > > > If such a thing is even possible I suppoose it becomes a sort of > philosophical question. If no one nor computer can know whether or not you > recieved a personally targeted message is the targeting invasive of your > privacy? > > yes, that's pretty much my point, I think nobody is interested to know > if somebody has seen a geotarget message or not, my point is about > making people from Milan (north of Italy) know that there is a local > meetup without bothering people from Rome (center) or Palermo (south > of Italy). (please note that with the current system we were not even > able to accurately distinguish betwen macro-regions as > north/center/south Italy) > > There also are infoboxes and categories that people use to indicate where they live. It could also be a preference, to make it private info. (and would be nice to get geonotices for "home" even while I am traveling, or if I use a proxy or something) Cheers, Katie > Cristian > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org @wikimediadc / @wikimania2012 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
