Just a general note, could you please all wait for Gayle to get back to her office? ^^ I think she wanted to address some of the things discussed here on Monday, which is by San Francisco time. So maybe let it rest for a few hours now? :)
Th. p.s. sorry about the empty email, my mouse is broken and clicks randomly. 2013/5/13 Thomas Goldammer <[email protected]> > > > 2013/5/13 Keegan Peterzell <[email protected]> > >> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:03 AM, James Alexander <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> > On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Peter Southwood < >> > [email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > Lets get a few things in perspective: >> > > 1. How many community members were abusive/unreasonable/whatever >> beyond >> > > what might be considered a startle reaction to an apparent attack >> without >> > > warning? >> > > 2 How many people constitute this community >> > > Divide answer 1 by answer 2 >> > > >> > > Consider how much of the response was a snowball effect of frustration >> > due >> > > to a distinct shortage of explanation and direct answers to what >> might be >> > > considered reasonable questions. >> > > >> > > And yes, "Welcome to Wikipedia " >> > > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Peter >> > > >> > >> > 2 is an unreasonable number to divide by when it's such a small cross >> > section of the actual community on these lists. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > >> >> That's a bit relative, James. The active folk on this mailing list make >> for a pretty good cross section of thoughts/feelings/opinions of the >> movement. I've refrained from this discussion and will continue to do so >> on specifics, because it's politics and that's not something I do on >> Wikipedia/Wikimedia. >> >> Things have been said in this discussion that I agree with, things have >> been said that I do not agree with. All in all, my opinion is not needed >> because it has been expressed by others, and I do not feel compelled to >> say >> my side. This is where we speak and we listen, and it is disheartening to >> read that you feel embarrassed to be from the community when you have to >> explain "drama" to them. >> >> These threads bring out the best and the worst in Wikimedians, for >> certain, >> but it's all out of cause of passion. We're here because we care, no >> matter the pattern or the tone of conversations. This is a global >> audience, intelligent, collaborative, and willing to learn. The Wikimedia >> Foundation is global, intelligent, and I assume good faith about >> collaboration and willingness to learn. Gayle's email reflects her >> opinion >> on getting this concept and working with it in the future, and I'm happy >> with that. >> >> All in all, I guess I just agree with Phoebe. >> >> -- >> ~Keegan >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
